Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: With that. Let's jump into the.
Think fast for this this week and there's a few different things going around but I think we'd be remiss if we did not cover.
Yeah. One of the biggest Internet events I think I don't know the year and.
[00:00:20] Speaker C: I just don't get the.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: I have a theory.
[00:00:22] Speaker C: It got to.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: I have a theory that I'll get to here in a bit but Coldplay has a concert and wouldn't you know it, the guy on the Jumbotron or the major screen has his arms around somebody that he's not supposed to and he ducks and she turns around in shame and embarrassment. And Chris Martin, the lead singer basically said like well either they're really shy or they're having an affair. Like he just calls.
[00:00:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:49] Speaker B: And indeed this was a CEO of Astronomer which is an AI company. I think it's worth millions of startup company but either way worth millions. Guy is worth a significant amount of money and yes, he was caught cheating on his wife and the wife is now divorcing him. It is a huge story and people are absolutely fascinated by it.
And so yeah, I think the key question that I kind of wanted to get into is why you think it captures the imagination. Like I said, I have some thoughts. Will, it sounds like you have some thoughts. So Jack, I'll start with you because you're the one that I want to.
[00:01:19] Speaker C: Hear you guys thoughts since you have them on why I was going to say because I'm a little bit baffled here.
[00:01:25] Speaker B: Okay, Will, what are your thoughts?
[00:01:29] Speaker A: So I. I'll give why it's popular and kind of my. Maybe a take or two that I have.
I honestly think one of the reasons it was so popular. When I say popular, like why it spread so much and went so viral is because of how genuine the reaction was. Like there was no faking that. Like it was almost like you're. When you're. It's like watching a car wreck happen. Like everybody's captivated by it, you know and so I think that's what a lot of the real.
It's very real. Like you know, stuff that people see in movies and shows. Ah, that's Hollywood. No, this was real life. Like you. You can see the instant they realize they're on the Jumbotron and just how quickly they break away. And it's just kind of a fascinating insight into the fact that people don't just do this in the movies. They don't just do this on TV shows. No, people do this in real Life. And we got, once again, one of the most raw, like, sincere examples of it played out right before our eyes.
So that would be my answer as to why it went so viral and why it kind of dominated the Internet and still kind of is for over the last several days, the only kind of takes I have on it that are, you know, again, there's been people that. It's all the Internet's been talking about. So this. None of these takes are going to be original to me.
I guess the big one that I have is why so many people are focusing on the man, not the woman.
You saw a ton of people come out and just. And to be fair, there were some that bashed both of them, but the guy's the ones getting all the attention from what I've seen. And you can easily tell from the woman's reaction as well. She knew what she was doing. It's like she was like, oh, you were married? I didn't know. Like, you could clearly tell. I couldn't tell in the reports that I think she was married. I know some people were saying that she was divorced. But it did seem like everything was heavily weighed, once again, as usual, towards the guy for it, when, obviously, I think both of them need to share an equal part in the blame there. And I guess the other thing that I'll bring up is isn't it amazing how as soon as light gets shown on the darkness, what happens? Like, they. They went from the euphoric feeling of, you know, being together. And, you know, I think TMZ released a video as well. Like, you see what happened before they went on the jumbotron again. They're just perfectly happy in sin. Perfectly. Again, having these euphoric feelings. And probably we're going to continue in this for months and months until somebody's shown a light on it. And I just think that's perfectly emblematic of. Of. Of the way sin is. Is when it's exposed, is when you get to see the true ugliness of it. But as long as people can stay in darkness, man, they'll love it as much as they can, and they'll enjoy every minute of it. So, yeah, again, none of those. None of that's original to me. I'm sure other people have said that, but those were kind of the. The thoughts that I had.
Joe, what about you?
[00:04:09] Speaker B: My theory on this is it touches on so many different aspects, tendrils of life. Everybody is almost forced to have a take one way or the other sexually. Obviously, the power dynamics between a boss and an HR rep like is he using his power? Right. Kind of brings back the me too the business dynamic of watching his business navigate through what does this look like the new CEO saying wow, we have more publicity than ever. Nobody knew who we were. But kind of not the way you want to find it. And so that's an interesting take. Obviously the morality take. There are people in the world that have no standard and all of a sudden they found a standard like well where's your standard in this? You know, is this a shifting standard for them?
Obviously for Christians it's a pretty easy standard. But morality, privacy, should they have been on there? It sounds like he's going to try to sue Coldplay for putting them on there now. And that's about.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: That's not the least self aware move.
[00:05:01] Speaker B: There's no way if he does correct. I mean I think you're signing like when you buy tickets you kind of sign like yeah, you're going to potentially could be on the jumbotron. I don't think he has any leg to stand on. That may also.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Sorry just privacy. You're at a concert with 60,000 people.
Give me a break.
[00:05:17] Speaker B: Right, exactly. But you know the, the privacy of. Should all of his dirty laundry have been aired now we know his wife, we know everything about him. We know their divorce settlements, we know how much money like should we know all of that? And so it kind of roast people in women in the workplace. I saw some things on that. How much. How much of a dynamic shift that is having women in the workplace. And this would have never happened without it. And then of course monetarily people are tracking the money side of things are tracking the worth and value of this company fluctuating. I mean I just think it touches on so many.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: To be clear which one of those is the reason why you think it's so popular? I'm just kidding.
[00:05:48] Speaker B: No, I'm saying yeah, it's. Everybody is forced to.
You're engaging on some. It's not just a cut and dried. It's like there are. It is morality wise but there are so many things to this that are like how did that happen? Why did it happen? What's going on?
[00:06:01] Speaker A: Fascinating.
[00:06:02] Speaker B: It's a fascinating thing that touches on so many different parts of life, aspects of life. Somebody like basically everybody is forced to have some take one way or the other is what it feels like to me. You're forced into taking a side one way or the other. And everybody likes being against them. Of course. But as you said, where's Everybody against the woman.
That is the fascinating thing to me is how much she gets let off the hook when it's like, wow, this guy's a dirtbag, and she didn't know that he was married. This. It takes two to tango, and both of them are in the wrong, but she's pretty much absolved. And that. That's also a very interesting angle in all this. But, Jack, what are your thoughts as you listen to us?
[00:06:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's so big because people really, really, really like judging, and there's very few opportunities to do it without feeling like a bad person. I think that's why reality tv, you can go on and think, well, I'm better than these people. I mean, like, that's why they always show, like, the bottom of the barrel of society is it gives people that, like, sense of superiority. And so no matter what you've done, at least you weren't the guy who got caught, you know, with. With another woman on the jumbotron. I wrote on it last week about, you know, this versus the Chip Gaines thing with it Will and I had the episode on, you know, that, oh, you're not supposed to judge with the Chip Gaines thing, but nobody has a problem with judging here. Nobody's doing love the sinner, hate the sin with the Coldplay, you know, fan CEO guy and his alleged mistress. And so, you know, people like judging, and here's an opportunity for them to do so. And it's like, man, your standards are garbage. Your morality is garbage.
It's. It's so frustrating to see, but, I mean, they're absolutely right in this case. And then it's bad. And it's nice that people can agree on objective morality for once. This is awful. You know, like, you just feel awful for the. The wife and the husband that weren't there.
I think Matt Walsh had a great take on it of, we need to punish this very seriously like we used to as a society. This used to be a very big crime. And now it's, like, laughable that it would be a crime. Why, like, you are violating the most important contract you'll ever sign. You violate any other big contract, you're in big trouble. And so, you know, to kind of, you know, not make too much light of this thing. Like, that's. Don't do that. Just. Everyone knows that, but don't do that. And, yeah, we should take this far more seriously than we as a society do.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: I think his life is going to be. It's not over, but I think it's going to be very, very difficult. He's a disgraced CEO. Nobody's going to want to hire him.
That's really where sin gets you, is it always seems good on the front end. There will always be consequences. At some point it will catch up to you. And I think that's a key takeaway that this is one of those you talk to your kids about. Guys, this is very serious. These are the consequences of sin. No, maybe it doesn't always come out, but these are the consequences that sin bring this in your life if you're not careful.
[00:08:48] Speaker C: All right, well, we're going to wrap right there. If you're watching this on the think fast only. The episode comes out next Monday on church conferences, lectureships, the benefits, the things that maybe we think are worth rethinking. And so you might enjoy that one, keep an eye out for it. Be sure you're subscribed either here on YouTube, be sure to click like and subscribe to our channel or on the podcast feeds. Wherever you get your podcast, just search for thing deeper. So we'll talk to you guys on that one.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: We'll see you Monday, Sam.
