100 Questions in 100 Minutes - Episode 100

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to Episode 100 of the Think Deeper Podcast. We are incredibly excited. And to be honest, fellas, did you think we'd actually make it to this episode? [00:00:10] Speaker B: I know Jack probably didn't because he'd had some failed runs and finishes. [00:00:15] Speaker C: Yeah, a lot harder when you're on your own. Shout out to these guys for carrying it to 100. [00:00:19] Speaker B: I will say 100 is. I didn't see that coming. [00:00:21] Speaker A: I did not either, to be honest with you. I thought, hey, more time we get to spend together, which is going to be a lot of fun. But no, I had no idea that we would actually make episode 100. It would mean nothing without you. And so to our listeners and to those who are watching right now, the deep thinkers. To the deep thinkers, we are incredibly, incredibly grateful for you sticking with us and listening to us and hearing our hot takes and our cold takes and some things that. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Giving feedback. [00:00:44] Speaker A: Giving feedback and everything else. So we're very grateful. Now we are live, actually, we're all in the same place. For those that are watching on our Patreon, if you are interested, as we always say, make sure to check out our Patreon focus Plus. If you go to focuspress.org plus, then you can watch us in this small little office at the church building that we attend. But we just got done with Wednesday night. Will taught a great class and so we thought this is a perfect time to come celebrate it. We celebrated downstairs with our family and we wanted to celebrate with you and just to be here. And so we had a Q and A episode planned. We got some great questions, some really, really good questions from you guys. We're very grateful for that. [00:01:23] Speaker B: We're tackling a tough task here with this 100th episode. Yes, 100 questions in 100 minutes going to be tough, especially if you're a longtime listener. Then you know that getting our answers on anything quickly is not very likely. In fact, shout out, I've got my brother here. If you're watching, he's in the back ground running our camera. So shout out to Reese. When I first told Reese that this is what we were going to be doing, he said, yeah, there's no way that you all are going to be able to do that. [00:01:47] Speaker C: Challenge accepted. [00:01:48] Speaker B: Yeah, we're here to prove Reese wrong. So 100 questions in 100 minutes. [00:01:51] Speaker A: And we got a lot of questions that don't or didn't make the cut. [00:01:55] Speaker C: And could not be answered in one. [00:01:56] Speaker A: I was going to say the reason is we can't answer it in 1 minute, but they are great episode topics. So we will be visiting revisiting a lot of those. So if we didn't get to your question here, Rest assured, we plan on getting to your question at some time in the future. But we thought it was worthy enough to not answer in 1 minute, but to actually maybe do an entire episode on or do a Q and a episode that hopefully we have coming up in the future. But with that, fellas, any other things we want to get into? [00:02:19] Speaker B: I think we're ready to roll. Start that timer. 100 minutes, 100 questions. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Reese is Manning the timer. And go. All right, fellas, I'm going to start us off here. And the way we're doing it. Sorry. Stop the timer. Great start. Just so everybody knows, I'm going to ask questions, and Will and Jack are going to answer, and then Jack's going to ask a question me and will are going to answer, and then will will ask me and Jack will answer. And that's how we're going to do it. We don't have time for all three of us to answer these questions, and so we decided we'd split it 33, 33, and 33. And the 100th, I think, is just going to be a very fun question for all of us to answer. Hopefully we will. [00:02:54] Speaker B: That's very serious. I'm taking it very seriously. [00:02:56] Speaker A: Well, we'll see. Yeah, we may have to. You'll see when we get there. You'll see when we get there. But anyway, with that, I think we're ready to start the timer now that it's been explained. Reese, go for it. So my first question to you, fellas, is, what's the biggest doctrinal shift you've made since becoming a Christian? [00:03:13] Speaker B: Go for it, Jack. [00:03:14] Speaker C: Yeah, I put down theological maximalism, which is just the idea of, you can't just leave things out in the open, like topicals, issues. You kind of stay away from isSues? No, go into the issues. Get the scriptures into the issues, like unity on a thin level is not what we were built for. [00:03:30] Speaker B: I'd say for me, I don't have a fancy name for it, like theological maximalism, but I think when I got baptized and became a Christian, I was very like, everything is 100% black and white. It's this way. It's this way in the Bible. A lot of that is in the Bible. As far as black and white, it is this way, as in, it's not this way. I think the biggest shift I've made is that, no, there are some things that are left open for debate. There are some things that everybody always says, you can go to the Bible for every single question. And you can, but you're not always going to come away with a crystal clear answer on every single thing, and that's difficult to accept, but that's definitely something that I did not know when I became a Christian. [00:04:01] Speaker A: That's a great answer. [00:04:02] Speaker C: Great answer. On to the next one. Jack, what is your hottest sports take? [00:04:07] Speaker B: I'll go first on this one. I've made this one pretty. LeBron James is far better than Michael Jordan, and that's not a hot take for me, but for a lot of people, that's a pretty hot take. [00:04:15] Speaker C: We probably just had like 20%. Turn it off. [00:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of people turn it off. I'm sorry. The truth hurts. I can't control it. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Joe, football is overrated. [00:04:23] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:04:24] Speaker A: Oh, that's a bad take. Football is overrated. That's a joke. Yeah. A ten second play. Wait around for 45 seconds. Ten second. Oh, wait, no, offside. No, there goes a flag. Another five second play. Guy runs right into his own teammate, falls, fumbles the ball. I mean, to me, yeah, it's just overrated. [00:04:47] Speaker B: Joe, you're over one so far. [00:04:48] Speaker A: It's not that I watch it, I watch football. I'll cheer. As hard as it is for the Broncos, however, I do think that it's overrated. [00:04:56] Speaker B: Okay. All right, I want to keep rolling. My first question, who is on your Mount Rushmore of musical icons? Musical icons Mount Rushmore, Joe. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Okay, I got the Beatles, I got Bob Dylan, Elvis. And it's not that I'm the biggest fan of those two. It's icons, but IT's icons. I feel like they have shaped music, as did Mozart. [00:05:22] Speaker C: Mr. Yeah, like I said earlier, put a monocle on when you say that one. Come on now. [00:05:26] Speaker A: Come on. [00:05:27] Speaker C: Trying to show everybody. [00:05:30] Speaker B: Icon and Mozart. I don't think I've ever been using the same. [00:05:32] Speaker C: Well, hey, I grew up with a Mozart poster on my wall, no doubt. [00:05:36] Speaker B: Jack, what's your name? [00:05:37] Speaker C: I had the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan and Michael Jackson. [00:05:42] Speaker B: Guys, I'm sorry to. Taylor Swift is going to be on that list at some point. [00:05:46] Speaker C: No, she's not. [00:05:46] Speaker A: I just don't. [00:05:47] Speaker C: She marries the Chiefs guy. [00:05:49] Speaker B: All right, Joe, you're up. [00:05:50] Speaker A: I see Michael Jackson maybe making. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Michael Jackson's got to be on the list. [00:05:53] Speaker A: Yeah, but above Mozart. Come on, man. Anyway, you're king of the world for a day. What one change are you making? [00:06:01] Speaker C: I didn't know to take it serious or funny. A serious, just outlaw abortion. [00:06:05] Speaker A: Funny. [00:06:05] Speaker C: I'd have my face carved on Mount. [00:06:07] Speaker A: Rushmore as a fifth or remove somebody? [00:06:10] Speaker C: No, I was just right next to him. [00:06:12] Speaker A: I would love for you to actually. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Have to decide who you'd figured for mine. I figured outlaw abortion was kind of like. Yes, of course. So I also figure out a way to completely eliminate voter fraud that drives me nuts that we can't trust elections and such. But as far as a funny I put ordering steak past medium is a misdemeanor. [00:06:28] Speaker A: Nice cosign, but yeah, if you continue to do it, it ramps up for sure. All right, Jack, what you got? [00:06:34] Speaker C: All right, my thing would scroll. What's one thing you admire about each of your co hosts? [00:06:40] Speaker B: Okay, that's a good one. [00:06:42] Speaker A: Pump my tires a little bit. [00:06:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:43] Speaker B: Jack's wanting to hear what we think about. [00:06:44] Speaker C: I was going to say no. I didn't realize that I was not going to get to answer this. I'm not like fishing here. [00:06:50] Speaker B: All right, so I'll start with Joe. What I had for Joe, what I admire most about him is his insane work ethic. First of all, guy works more than just anybody I know. And then his compassion and care for people. Certainly something that I need to work on. [00:07:03] Speaker A: I'm going to look like a jerk. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Sorry. Yeah, I have two work ethic and compassion. And then for know I can't admire his just intellect enough. It's just his brain. I wish I had it. But also, Jack, your willingness to change positions on things I think is very know. It can be very easy for somebody to just get staunchly implanted into a position and not come off of it. But you're willing to change on things. [00:07:27] Speaker A: Well, what's one thing you. Sorry I answered that one. I don't know about you, but no, I did have your knowledge actually. And the reason why is there are people that aren't around Jack don't understand. If you ask him a question, not only has he already thought about it, he already has a detailed understanding and explanation for why he thinks that and can communicate it. Can communicate it. And he's thought of every other take along the way. And this is on almost any subject that is not a joke. You could ask about women's water polo and he's got some take on it. It is unbelievable. And so yes, I've always appreciated about. [00:08:00] Speaker C: You don't ask me about that. [00:08:03] Speaker A: We used to do if anybody remembers. [00:08:05] Speaker B: The 1 minute joke. [00:08:06] Speaker A: I know stump the schwab. We wanted Jack to go on stump the Schwab because I literally think he could have done it when it came to sports. But so many other things. [00:08:13] Speaker B: Impressive. [00:08:13] Speaker A: So I have that. And it's really your voracious. Not just the knowledge, but your desire to know will I have your determination? Because you just decided to do the 70 hard challenge, whatever. And it's like you just do it. And you've done that on multiple things where I'm like, you're doing what? You can't be serious. And not only are you serious, you're like, we're going to do another one. Which makes me look really bad. But I have your appreciation. I appreciate. It's good stuff. [00:08:36] Speaker B: All right, my number two, what is your all time favorite movie? [00:08:42] Speaker A: Is it me? Okay, that's right. I have. And it's a cleaned up version. Goodwill hunting. [00:08:46] Speaker B: Yep. I could have predicted that. [00:08:48] Speaker A: I love that. [00:08:49] Speaker B: I don't know what Jackson is. [00:08:50] Speaker C: Jingle all the way. [00:08:52] Speaker A: You got to be. [00:08:52] Speaker C: There's no kidding. [00:08:54] Speaker B: That cannot be your favorite. [00:08:55] Speaker A: I love it. [00:08:55] Speaker C: A couple of Christmases ago we were watching it and I turned to Alison. I'm like, this is my favorite movie. [00:09:00] Speaker A: I'm not a big movie guy. [00:09:01] Speaker C: Every year I look forward to that, man. I laugh my head off. I send my family 50 gifts of Sinbad and Arnold Schwarzenegger. I love that movie. [00:09:10] Speaker B: That is funny. Didn't see that one coming. [00:09:12] Speaker A: That is good stuff. That's the best part of the year. All right, my turn. Most hated athlete and why in 1. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Minute I dodged this and didn't go. Athlete. My most hated sports person is Nick Saban. [00:09:23] Speaker B: Oh really? Can I get a reason real quick? [00:09:25] Speaker C: I think he is obnoxious. I think it's pretty well documented. He cheats. [00:09:30] Speaker B: Just talk about, talk about people turning this podcast. [00:09:35] Speaker C: Come at me with it. I can't stand Nick Saban. I thought the funniest thing in the world was when they beat Texas for that national title and they gave him the Gatorade bath and hit him in the head with the cooler. [00:09:44] Speaker A: I forgot about that. [00:09:45] Speaker B: I got to watch that on YouTube. All right, mine is Kevin Durant. I think he's really not Tom Brady. Not Brady. Nope. It's got to say it's Kevin Durant. Just very true. [00:09:54] Speaker C: Mr. Thinskin. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Wine. That's a lot. Yeah, I can't say when people say anything negative about him, it's a good one. [00:09:59] Speaker C: All right, back to me. What's your favorite verse? [00:10:02] Speaker B: One Corinthians 924. Paul, do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize run in such a way that you may obtain it kind of ties into the I guess the determination points you made a second ago. But it's kind of like run the race or don't and run it to win. And I love athletics, and so that one is, I don't know, motivating for me. [00:10:18] Speaker A: I have an off the beaten path one, which is Micah seven, seven through ten. But as for me, I'll watch excellently for the Lord. I will wait for the Lord of my salvation. My God will hear me. Do not rejoice over me, O my enemy. Though I fall, I will rise. Though I dwell in darkness, the Lord is the light for me. I will bear the indignation of the Lord because I have sinned against him. Until he pleads my case and executes justice for me, he will bring me out to the light, And I will see his righteousness. Then my enemy will see, and shame will cover her. Who said to me, where is the Lord your God? My eyes will look on her at that time. She will be trampled down like mire of the streets. I love that. Because him saying, even though I have sinned, even though I'm not a good guy, God's still on my side. He's still my warrior, fighting for me. So I've always loved Micah seven. [00:10:59] Speaker B: That's definitely not Philippians 413. Definitely not. All right. You could have dinner with one Old Testament and one New Testament character. Who would it be? [00:11:08] Speaker C: What you got? [00:11:09] Speaker A: Okay, I have. Getting to it right now. I have David, King David, which is kind of no brainer, but I just feel like, how many stories he could tell? How many stories could a guy tell? And I have Paul, which is also no brainer, but once again, how many stories could he tell? Just, what was it like to write this letter? Or did we have any letters that we don't see in the Bible? Like, any letters you wrote that obviously, that aren't inspired. If they were, they would have been there. It's not a canon issue. But just to know, like, what else? I'd love to get his take on the modern church. [00:11:37] Speaker C: I have Abraham. Always been a big Abraham guy. I think I've talked about it on the show before. And then John. I'm going to one up Paul, because John, as we're teaching through revelation, saw some insane stuff, but also walked with Jesus. Paul didn't get to do that. And so I think John would have multiple really interesting things to talk about. [00:11:53] Speaker B: It's a great one. [00:11:54] Speaker A: Good stuff. [00:11:55] Speaker B: Great one. [00:11:55] Speaker A: Okay. What book have you read that's changed your life? And do not say the Bible, please. [00:12:01] Speaker C: Oh, man. I'm out of order here, Will, go ahead. [00:12:04] Speaker B: All right, so I've shouted this book out before, point man by Steve Ferrar. [00:12:07] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. [00:12:08] Speaker B: Just a great book. I read it when I was 15 or 16. It was one of those books my dad said, you will read this before you leave the house. And I'm glad he did. It definitely woke me up as like, yeah, I can't just be messing around as a young teenager. I have to be getting ready myself, ready for marriage. I have to be getting myself ready for kids. And really kind of opened my eyes to just how big a deal that was. Not that I didn't know, but reading that book was like, wow, yeah, this is a really big deal. So I would say, obviously, other than the Bible, that would be it. Point man. Steve, for our great read. [00:12:33] Speaker C: It's on my shelf. I'll have to get to it. Mine is a political theory book called the Machiavellians by James Burnham. And I read it in 2020 when a lot of things were shaking up and it was like, what's going on in the world? And, yeah, it's really influenced a lot of what I've written the last few years. A lot of my personal changes. Can't go into it. All right now in 1 minute, but fascinating book. Fascinating. [00:12:56] Speaker A: The Machiavellian. [00:12:58] Speaker C: Machiavellians. [00:12:59] Speaker A: Machiavellians. [00:13:00] Speaker C: Check that out. [00:13:01] Speaker B: As long as people of our intellect a little lower than Jax could understand. Yeah, that's what I'm a little worried about. [00:13:06] Speaker C: How do you spell Machiavellians? [00:13:08] Speaker A: We might start with that. [00:13:09] Speaker C: You'd find it very interesting. It's really good. Okay, there's a good one. What are your co hosts most wrong about? [00:13:15] Speaker B: Okay. I was struggling with this one for Joe until he said football is overrated. That's very Joe, this is. I just pulled this out of thin air because I've thought about this. Joe, your take that you can't do a budget on a self employed income. Dead wrong. Dead wrong. Me and Joe disagree about that for sure. [00:13:31] Speaker A: It's not that you can't. It's infinitely harder, but you don't know. [00:13:34] Speaker B: How much money you can still do it. And then, Jack, your sense of style is just totally off. Not just your sense of style, but your position that style doesn't matter, I would also say is just completely off base. [00:13:48] Speaker C: Fair enough. [00:13:48] Speaker B: I couldn't. Full disclosure. I couldn't find anything, like, ultra serious that the three of us disagree. That I disagree with on. [00:13:54] Speaker A: That's one of the problems, what I. [00:13:55] Speaker B: Went with, that's one of the problems. [00:13:56] Speaker A: That I think people have with this podcast. Like, do you guys ever disagree? Like HalloweeN. [00:14:01] Speaker B: I thought about that. You're trickortreating. [00:14:03] Speaker C: They don't like my white socks. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Yeah, not with black shoes and shorts. But anyway, I have will. Country music is just terrible. [00:14:12] Speaker B: I knew that. It's just bad. That's predictable. [00:14:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not good. And then for Jack, I don't think you like the world of therapy, like, at all. And I'm a therapist and so it's kind of like, yeah, we probably disagree on how that goes. So I think that would be what you're most wrong about is that. But the problem is, I agree with you on a lot of your takes therapy wise. I think there are a lot of people that don't know what they're doing out there. [00:14:38] Speaker B: But, yeah, in your specific case. All right, number four. My number four, I should say. If you could witness one event in the Bible, which would you choose? One event in the Bible to witness, what would you choose? [00:14:48] Speaker A: Resurrection. The Son of God came down, died, and Rose. Like, raised himself from the dead. It's kind of tough to top that one. [00:14:57] Speaker C: I was going to say it almost needed the qualifier. You can't say the crucifixion. Can't say the resurrection because they're the obvious ones. The parting of the Red Sea. If I'm going to. [00:15:04] Speaker B: I thought about that one. [00:15:05] Speaker C: That'd be pretty powerful. Creation. I don't know. [00:15:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I was going to say creation. [00:15:09] Speaker B: Would be the one that I thought of would be interesting. Was feeding the 5000. [00:15:13] Speaker A: How did he do that? [00:15:14] Speaker C: How did it taste? [00:15:15] Speaker B: Well, I'm a big food guy. [00:15:18] Speaker A: This fish is all the people. [00:15:21] Speaker B: Is this sourdough, Bret? [00:15:22] Speaker C: No, you probably roasted a good fish, man. [00:15:24] Speaker A: That's very true. This is flounder. [00:15:27] Speaker B: Sorry, Joe. Number five. You're number five. [00:15:30] Speaker A: You're both the oldest boys in your families. Best and worst parts of being the. [00:15:35] Speaker C: Oldest, I think it's cool to be around for your younger siblings entire lives. Like, I remember stuff about you that you don't remember about you, which is really neat. And then worst part is you kind of get the lumps of your parents are kind of learning along the way. You're, you're learning things along the way. You got to watch them. You're like, oh, don't do that. Because that gets you disciplined. I didn't get to watch somebody else do that. So. Yeah, I got that. [00:15:57] Speaker B: I have very similar answers. I put for the best parts of it is you basically don't miss out on as much for the youngest. You just miss out on more of the family trips. You don't remember them as much and all that. So very similar. And then as far as, again, the best, you kind of get to do things before your siblings do. So kind of the seniority part is cool, but the worst part is your younger siblings get way more leash than you got. That is just undeniable. [00:16:21] Speaker A: Just better kids. [00:16:21] Speaker B: Younger kids just get way more leash and parents get lAx. That's just proven. [00:16:27] Speaker C: That thing of, well, you can't do that until you're 17. Okay, well, I'm 17. All right. [00:16:30] Speaker A: Take your brother, 14. [00:16:33] Speaker B: That's exactly right. [00:16:35] Speaker A: We were so mature. They recognized that my maturity. See, Reese is nodding. [00:16:41] Speaker B: All right, you're number five, Jack. [00:16:42] Speaker C: All right. For the two of you guys, who is your dream godly Young Men podcast guest? [00:16:47] Speaker B: I got Tebow. [00:16:48] Speaker C: Having Tim Tebow, that is great. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Would be super cool. [00:16:52] Speaker A: That is so good. [00:16:52] Speaker C: I didn't even think about that. [00:16:53] Speaker B: If Tim Tebow, if you run across this somehow, some way, we would love to have you on the job. [00:16:57] Speaker C: Regular Deep thinker Tim Tebow. [00:16:58] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:16:59] Speaker A: I had Joe Rogan and the reason why. Yeah, exactly. Have me on yours. I could use 13 million listeners to the Jim podcast. [00:17:08] Speaker B: That'd be all right. [00:17:09] Speaker A: So that's not the last time you'll hear about Joe Rogan here. [00:17:12] Speaker B: All right, my next one. I'm very interested to hear you all's thoughts on what is one thing you confidently know you are very good at. [00:17:19] Speaker A: I hate this is. [00:17:21] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:17:24] Speaker A: I do believe that I'm good at hockey. [00:17:26] Speaker C: He is. [00:17:28] Speaker A: I believe I'm good at hockey. [00:17:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Nice explaining ideas. That feels weird, but it's kind of stuff you guys had already said a little bit, so I feel like I can illustrate things well or help people understand them. [00:17:40] Speaker A: Yeah, you do it every day, which is very good. Okay, number six, if you could travel anywhere for one week, where would you go? [00:17:49] Speaker B: So we've got another question later on about places you haven't been. So to clarify, this is just anywhere. Where would you go? [00:17:54] Speaker A: Anywhere you could go for a week. [00:17:55] Speaker B: I'd go to Hawai. That's pretty easy for me. Beautiful beaches is awesome. [00:17:59] Speaker C: Colorado, now that we don't live there, I would go spend a couple days in Denver, go up into the mountains, see stuff that we didn't see is like, hey, we moved away. Like, why didn't we ever go to Four Corners or something like that? [00:18:08] Speaker A: Our favorite Mexican place four times. [00:18:09] Speaker C: Of course. [00:18:10] Speaker B: What's your answer? Curiously. I know this is your question, but we got time. [00:18:14] Speaker A: London. [00:18:15] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah. That's your city. That's true. [00:18:17] Speaker A: I love London. [00:18:18] Speaker C: All right. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Sounds so pretentious. That just sounds really pretentious. [00:18:22] Speaker C: You can listen to Mozart. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Vatican City. [00:18:25] Speaker A: Did you see the gym episode on Getting Cultured? [00:18:27] Speaker B: I think Jack skipped that one. [00:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Go back and catch it with his socks. [00:18:33] Speaker C: I was taking notes furiously. [00:18:35] Speaker A: That's right. [00:18:36] Speaker C: All right. My question. [00:18:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Your number six. [00:18:39] Speaker C: What is your hottest food take? [00:18:41] Speaker B: To me, I think French toast. Objectively terrible. I do not like French toast. It gets that reaction every single time. So that remains my hottest food take. Not a fan of French toast. [00:18:51] Speaker A: It gets that reaction for a reason. [00:18:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Soggy bread, man. It's just like, with a little crisp. [00:18:57] Speaker A: And then you dip it. Oh, man. It's perfect. You're going to love this one. [00:19:01] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:19:02] Speaker A: It's the exact opposite. Chicken and dumplings is very overrated. It is not good. [00:19:06] Speaker B: It's not at the top of my list, but it's pretty good. [00:19:08] Speaker A: Chicken and dumplings are half baked. Nice. Nice. Yeah. [00:19:12] Speaker B: I think my wife made you chicken and dumplings one time. Rachel, if you're listening. [00:19:15] Speaker A: No, she made whatever that is that she makes with the. [00:19:18] Speaker B: Oh, on cornbread? Yeah, on cornbread. That's right. [00:19:20] Speaker A: That's unbelievable. But that's not chicken and dumplings. And look, I've had my mom's. I've had other people shout out to my mom, amazing cook. I think she made it one time. I didn't like it then, either. It's soggy. It's gross. It's like soggy biscuits that weren't fully baked. [00:19:33] Speaker B: Like French toast. Sounds about right. [00:19:35] Speaker A: No, there's a crispiness to that. [00:19:37] Speaker B: All right, okay, my turn. What is one thing? This can be a trait. This can be a talent that you want your children to learn from you. And we're going to take out the spiritual, obviously. We want them to be Christlike and godly. [00:19:48] Speaker A: Will just wants us to look like jerks. [00:19:50] Speaker B: Take that away. [00:19:51] Speaker A: Arrogant jerks. [00:19:52] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. What is one thing? No, but what is one thing? You're like, I really want to pass this on to my kids. [00:19:55] Speaker A: I do want to pass on my people skills, because I do believe, like, as a therapist, I genuinely like talking to people, and I don't struggle with social anxiety. And that served me very well. To, like most rooms I walk into, I'm pretty comfortable. And not in an arrogant way, just like I'm curious about people. I love talking to people and learning about them and everything else. And so I want my kids to be curious about other people and just to enjoy talking with them. And so, yeah, I feel like no social anxiety like people. [00:20:23] Speaker B: That's a good answer. I like that. [00:20:25] Speaker C: Yeah. It's something I don't fully have right now, but I'm working towards and growing in is self discipline. I don't want it to be hard for them to get out of morning, out of bed in the morning and have a routine. And as he's like 100 something pounds, you're really bad. [00:20:37] Speaker A: He doesn't have it, but there's still. [00:20:39] Speaker C: Stuff where it's like, all right, get your act together and do your job, man. So it's something like that where I don't want them to have to start that from. [00:20:46] Speaker B: My answer would be that. Or self awareness has been for me. [00:20:50] Speaker C: Yeah, okay. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That's background of me. [00:20:53] Speaker C: Reese, how are we doing? [00:20:53] Speaker A: This is flying. [00:20:55] Speaker C: See, we're not going to do 100 minutes. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah, we're pretty good. We're cruising, man. It means we can take a little longer. No. [00:21:02] Speaker C: Okay. [00:21:02] Speaker A: If you could have chosen this question number seven. Just for anybody. [00:21:05] Speaker B: For you. Number seven. [00:21:07] Speaker A: And I started. So, question number seven, if you could have chosen any career path, what would you have been? [00:21:12] Speaker B: So I'm assuming NFL athletes. Not a choice because I don't have the genetics for that. Financial analyst or advisor is what I put. I've realized that fascinates me a lot. And I love talking money. [00:21:25] Speaker C: I love research, helping people who think they can't budget. [00:21:28] Speaker B: Exactly. The problem is I didn't develop that until kind of too late and kind of discovered that passion. So, yeah, going back, I would say financial analyst or advisor. [00:21:39] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I couldn't become a professional athlete, but I always thought the general manager side of it. And so, like, being an NHL, making the trades, signing the players, knowing the salary cap, that kind of thing would be a lot of fun. But you have to start in at the intern level and know people. And it never would have happened, of course, but it would have been fun. [00:21:58] Speaker A: That would have been fun. That's a good one. [00:21:59] Speaker C: All right, back around. Let's see. We did food tag. Who's your least favorite Bible character? [00:22:05] Speaker B: I struggle with this one because obviously Judas Jezebel is kind of the villain to the Bible. That's kind of lame answer. So I was trying to come up with something other than that. You know who really gets on my nerves is Solomon. Dude had everything in the world God gives him. Wisdom. God gives know riches, literally. God hands him everything imaginable, and the guy still messes it up and marries a thousand women and worships other gods. Like, what are you, man? Like, just get it together. [00:22:29] Speaker A: I have Samson. [00:22:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:31] Speaker A: I can't stand. [00:22:32] Speaker B: He's an idiot. [00:22:33] Speaker A: He's an absolute idiot. I mean, he just. [00:22:34] Speaker C: He's like the Rob Gronkowski of the Bible. Total knucklehead, bro. Jim, bro. Royed it out. [00:22:42] Speaker A: Like, seriously, you have all the strength, and then you get the chicks, and then you get in trouble with the chicks, and then you kill people, and it's like, well, cool. I guess you killed the right bad guys this time. Supposed to say chicks. Am I not sorry? I don't know. Either way, I just feel like, what an idiot. [00:22:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And he never really has a good. [00:23:00] Speaker A: Redemption, and he commits suicide. Like, that's his end, is he commits suicide. But he took out a lot of philistines with him. [00:23:04] Speaker C: I mEan, it was more of a. What's that samurai term? The sepiku or whatever. Like, the honor killer guy. [00:23:10] Speaker A: Here we go. Yeah. [00:23:11] Speaker B: Put his faith in God also at the end, sort of. [00:23:14] Speaker A: I mean, it kind of comes back. [00:23:16] Speaker C: Around, but after he take out his enemies, there's a little bit of typology in there. [00:23:20] Speaker B: I'm curious. What's your answer? [00:23:22] Speaker C: Laban. I can't stand Laban. Oh, the guy's a jerk. [00:23:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:26] Speaker C: He's so obnoxious. He's slimy. You know, the switching the daughters out, but then coming back, his own daughters and grandchildren, he's, like, trying to cheat them out of stuff, and it's like. [00:23:34] Speaker A: That's very true. [00:23:34] Speaker C: What is wrong with you, man? And you get two glimpses of him when he's giving Rebecca away, but then with his. Like, he's the worst. [00:23:41] Speaker A: So Jacob's not your least favorite? [00:23:43] Speaker C: Just kidding. If I had to answer what you're most wrong about, it's Jacob, so we'll do that later. Another episode. [00:23:49] Speaker B: All right, my number seven. What is your favorite holiday food and drink? [00:23:53] Speaker A: Okay. My favorite holiday food is the honey baked ham with, like, the crumble on the know where. It's just so. [00:24:01] Speaker B: That's really good. [00:24:02] Speaker A: And then you put it on, so you eat it, and then when you have leftover, you take the king's Hawaiian rolls or. Sister Schubert is great. And so it's like the ultimate Thanksgiving food, because it's better than the turkey just to start out with. And I know it's a hot take for some people. It's better than the turkey tastes better, it's juicier. Everything else, and then you get to have it as leftovers. It's amazing. People aren't going to remember this one, but one of the drinks that I love the most, they don't even make it anymore, is Cinnamon Pepsi. Anybody remember that? [00:24:27] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:24:27] Speaker A: They made Cinnamon Pepsi. [00:24:29] Speaker C: They did that for a year or two. [00:24:30] Speaker A: Yeah, they did it for a year or two right around Christmas. And I remember because cinnamon is my favorite spice. I love, love Pepsi. It was like a match made in heaven and they stopped it. So that was my favorite drink. But I really do like, if you. [00:24:40] Speaker B: Were king of the world for a day, you'd bring it back. [00:24:42] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. I'D bring it back. The cranberry sprites that they bring out, or the ginger ales, like cranberry ginger ales, that type of stuff. Around this time I really like. I'm a big soda guy, which I know you're not, but. [00:24:50] Speaker C: Sorry, I'm a pecan pie guy. I'm going to try a maple syrup pecan pie one instead of the caro because that's kind of weird. But still, I'm going to try that this year and then. My wife is a big fan of peppermint mochas, and it's kind of girly to claim that, but I always get peppermint. I'm going to order that. Really good. Pepper mochas are. [00:25:09] Speaker B: That would be my answer for drink. [00:25:10] Speaker A: That's so good. Okay, number eight, what's the biggest prayer you've seen God answer in your life? [00:25:17] Speaker C: A wife. Because I got married older than you guys. You guys walked right out of high school or college and all of a sudden you're married. It was my style. Cost me. [00:25:30] Speaker B: All right. [00:25:31] Speaker A: And I can't say chick magnets now. [00:25:33] Speaker C: I guess all the women I asked out while wearing white socks. You finally got through to me. No, it was just. No, it took a number of years for Alison and I knew each other for a number of years and prayed that God would open that door, and he did. So that's awesome. [00:25:52] Speaker B: Wife's a big one. Joe's next question has to do with wife, so I kind of set that one aside. Having healthy kids was a big one. And I've realized I'm putting two answers down for a lot of these, so I apologize. We got time. Healthy kids was a big one, but also just the position I'm at now. The financial stability. Didn't really have that a year or so ago, and so that's been a pretty big recent prayer blessing that God has really come through for good stuff. [00:26:18] Speaker C: All right, we should say that some of these are listener questions that we wove in. And so some of these are actually from you guys. [00:26:24] Speaker B: Was that one that was a listener question? [00:26:25] Speaker C: No, this next one is. And so it's going to look like I'm putting you guys on the spot a lot, but I think this was Sissy's fault, so blame her. What is your biggest. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Ooh, and I gotta go first on this. I don't, not to be arrogant here, I don't have a ton of, like, man, just really messed it up type of regrets so far. Honestly, the biggest regret I have is that I did not finish school because I was in college. That is because me and Rachel got married. I had, like, 100 credit hours and needed, like, 120 and got married and then got a pretty big time, pretty demanding job there shortly thereafter. And so school kind of went on the back burner permanently. And so I wish I'd have just kind of gutted it out, stuck it out, and, yeah, I was working a lot of hours, but I could have finished 20 credit hours pretty easily, so wish I could have done that. I'm probably still going to go back and do that, but that's probably my biggest regret. Nothing major. [00:27:17] Speaker A: Well, I have some major regrets. I've made some bad decisions in my life before, and one of those, or the biggest regret, I'd say, is sleeping with my wife before marriage. That's something that if I could go back and get a hold of younger Joe, be like, you idiot. Don't make that mistake. I think that has potential to ruin a lot of relationships. Nearly ruined our relationship, in law relationships, things like, and nothing really good comes of it. You say that and every parent's like, well, of course, don't do it. Okay, well, I won't do it. And then it becomes really difficult, and then you convince yourself otherwise, and so there are reasons. Don't do it. [00:27:56] Speaker C: I would say that. Not that this is, like, a reason to do it. We say nothing good comes of it. It's a story that you can give an account to other people to say, look, and you're open about it. I think that's a thing that helps people. [00:28:07] Speaker A: And that's why I didn't. Porn on here is like, man, that's what I do every day. I get to help people. So do I have regrets in that? Absolutely. But at the same time, God uses. God uses it, and he used this one as well. I just wish that other people like it. Hurts other people, the porn. It does as well, kind of in a roundabout way, but it's mainly mine. This is, like, where I failed to take a lead in that one, so that would be My biggest regret. Thanks, Sissy, for putting also Jack put. [00:28:27] Speaker B: That on his list so he wouldn't have to answer that. [00:28:29] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Nice. [00:28:30] Speaker C: No? Yeah. I had not getting more serious about self discipline until earlier. It was when COVID hit. And there's all this stuff about, like, well, if you're in better health, you got a better chance. And if you get sick and all that. I was like, well, I'm 30 years old. I should probably do this now and not investing in Bitcoin in 2014. [00:28:47] Speaker B: No joke. [00:28:48] Speaker A: I was about to. [00:28:49] Speaker C: I was like, Jack Finger on the trigger, and I just didn't. [00:28:51] Speaker A: And you would have had, I think, wouldn't you calculate, what, like, 60 grand or so? [00:28:54] Speaker C: I wouldn't have a house payment. [00:28:55] Speaker B: Could you imagine what kind of think deeper studio we could have invested in Bitcoin, you idiot. [00:29:00] Speaker C: It's all of our biggest regret now. [00:29:03] Speaker B: All right, my number eight, what is the question you have the hardest time answering about the Bible? So, like, topic, basically, God's sovereignty as. [00:29:12] Speaker A: It pertains to free will. Okay. [00:29:15] Speaker C: I was afraid we were going to answer the same a lot. That's where I am right now. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [00:29:19] Speaker C: We have free will. The degree of which we don't have ultimate free will. [00:29:23] Speaker A: Because how much does God weave in things that he takes our free will? Does he ever take our free will? [00:29:30] Speaker C: The fact that everyone is born to parents. So you're not a blank slate. You're raised with a childhood that is outside of your control, lends you towards certain tendencies and all that. Well, that's not ultimate free will. You're not a blank slate. That's heavy stuff, man. [00:29:44] Speaker A: It is very heavy. And it's one of those. What I get frustrated with is those in the church, because obviously there's, like, a Calvinistic aspect, right? And those in the church are like, well, haven't you ever heard this one? And they give, like, one verse to it, and it's like, stop. [00:29:55] Speaker B: That doesn't explain it. [00:29:56] Speaker A: If you give me a one verse answer that's supposed to explain this, you know nothing of what you're talking about. So let's go back to the drawing board. Like, there is so much around the free will Of God or the free will that we have and how God. Well, it's anthropomorphic language of what he's trying to say to Pharaoh and such, man, it's just a rabbit trail. It's deep. So, yeah, that would be my biggest thing that I struggle with. But I am curious on yours. Did you have one? [00:30:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it was similar to that. Like, how does God's Providence work? Basically? Obviously, I believe he's active, but how active? Similar. Yeah. [00:30:30] Speaker C: Okay. [00:30:31] Speaker A: What has been the biggest unforeseen blessing in your marriage? Something you didn't foresee. I mean, we can look at it. We just recorded one on sexuality. Like, sex is a blessing, and that's great. When you're in marriage, there's a lot of blessings. You could look at your wife's cooking, you could look at the day to day just for relationship building. But what's one unforeseen thing? [00:30:49] Speaker C: The encouragement. There's thing about the verse or whatever about. I don't know if it's a verse or not. Now I'm drawn off the top of my head. If you want to go faster, go by yourself. If you want to go longer, take two. And, yeah, I mean, there's things you got to slow down and do together, and there's less productivity in some ways, but other ways, just coming home to somebody at night or just having somebody there to tell you that you did a good job and to encourage each other is really neat. [00:31:15] Speaker B: Yeah, mine was similar. Just kind of. You literally always have somebody, like, you have a bad day, you got a really tough week at work. You always have somebody who you can just kind of just collapse into. Collapse on. Talk about, man, I'm really struggling with this. When you're growing up. Yeah, you have that with your parents, but it's tough in teenagers. You don't really have it, man. When you're married, it's nonstop and it's really cool. The other thing, again, two answers here. Lifetime travel partner. That's pretty cool. Not that I didn't see that coming, but it's like, I guess I didn't think about that. You had a lifetime travel partner. It's pretty cool. [00:31:43] Speaker A: It's good stuff. [00:31:44] Speaker C: Did you have one? [00:31:45] Speaker A: I had no blessings in my marriage. No. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Alyssa doesn't listen to the podcast. [00:31:50] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:31:50] Speaker A: So she won't catch us. [00:31:51] Speaker C: She's not a deep thinker, is what you're saying. I'll tell her you said so. [00:31:55] Speaker A: Wow. I think deep enough for the both of us, no? Yeah. I didn't answer that one on my own. But there's just a million in one. And I think having somebody to just decompress from the day, like, yeah, you know it. Like, you said is foreseen, but you don't know how much into the encouragement. [00:32:12] Speaker B: How much it helps, how much it helps measure it. [00:32:15] Speaker C: All right. Like we had said, only two guys can answer the question. We're going through these so fast, we can kind of add the third guy a couple of times here. Let's see. So I asked you, what's a career or personal accomplishment you want to achieve in the next ten years? [00:32:31] Speaker B: I've got four answers. I'll go quick. [00:32:32] Speaker C: Wow. [00:32:34] Speaker A: We won't be answering all three of them. [00:32:35] Speaker B: I want to have in depth notes on every single book of the Bible. [00:32:38] Speaker C: Nice. [00:32:39] Speaker B: That's for as far as spiritual. I'd love to write a book. I thought about something for young people, kind of motivating, kind of the determination thing, like get it together type of. I don't know. That's kind of long term. I want to get really good at guitar, and I want to be able to score 80 in golf. In the 80s in golf. So that's probably towards the ten year end of the goal, but, yeah, lots of golf. Four quick ones. Yeah. [00:33:02] Speaker C: Okay. [00:33:03] Speaker A: That's good stuff. [00:33:04] Speaker C: That's on nine holes. Yeah, exactly right. [00:33:07] Speaker A: I'm still trying to break 80 on nine. [00:33:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:10] Speaker A: Well, now I look like an idiot not doing anything. I literally had three letters. Phd. [00:33:15] Speaker B: That's pretty big. [00:33:16] Speaker A: That would be in the next ten years. That and the other thing I was going to say initially was, I want to start a counseling agency where I have people underneath me working, like counselors, and get some. That I would be their supervisor, but then also start offering intensives, sexual addiction intensives. Having worked at a place like you can help a lot more people a lot quicker in that. There's a lot of money in it. There's a lot of everything in it, and so I feel like you got to have the PhD to do that. But those are the ultimate plans, at least as far as it goes business wise. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Nice. [00:33:49] Speaker C: Cool. [00:33:49] Speaker B: All right, my number nine. What are your three or top three favorite think deeper episodes we've ever recorded. And you all struggle with this one for some reason. [00:33:57] Speaker C: I didn't as much. [00:33:58] Speaker B: He didn't, I guess, Joe. [00:33:59] Speaker A: I did struggle with this top three. [00:34:00] Speaker B: Favorite think deeper episodes. [00:34:02] Speaker A: Okay. I had the Christmas episode of last year where we were just shooting the brief. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Oh, the holiday. [00:34:06] Speaker A: That was just fun. Had a good time on that, as did I did with number two, which is Halloween. [00:34:12] Speaker C: It was a good time because it's. [00:34:13] Speaker A: One of the only times we've ever actually argued about anything which has been. [00:34:16] Speaker B: And it wasn't just like a joking. No, we legitimately disagree. [00:34:20] Speaker C: It was a roast back and forth. We had some fun with it. [00:34:22] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And then masculinity matters. I think that's when it kicked off, and we had been talking about it a lot. But I feel like when the masculinity matters hit, I got very serious and reading a lot and things like that, and that's been very helpful. And then, Jim, podcast started. So, yeah, masculinity matters. I have as number three. [00:34:39] Speaker C: All right. I had Halloween, the self defense episode. I felt like we researched that well, studied our Bible well. It was something I've pointed people to a few times, and they've come asking me. It's just a useful thing that people have had questions about. And I thought we did a good job with it. And then three church practices, you would change. I thought that was very fascinating. That one really got people talking. [00:34:58] Speaker B: That makes money. [00:34:58] Speaker C: I had people talk to me about it or say things they would add to their list. And so that was a fun one. [00:35:04] Speaker A: What makes your list? [00:35:05] Speaker B: Halloween. I'd say that the three church practices, but not to copy Jack will give two more. The ten decisions or reasons or whatever, that we stayed faithful. Yeah, I really enjoyed that episode. I thought that was a pretty valuable episode. And then the episode that we went off on dIsney, I enjoyed that one a lot. I was actually just now looking. Pride month. It was the Pride month. Protecting kids, boycotting and fighting back on June 5. Yeah, for the last 15 minutes of that episode, we dropped the hammer on Disney. [00:35:34] Speaker C: And that was a take that has aged like a fine Coca Cola. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Yes. [00:35:41] Speaker A: Let's move on. [00:35:44] Speaker B: Joe, you're up. [00:35:45] Speaker A: Well, what's the best meal you've ever had? [00:35:47] Speaker C: I would say one of Mom's Valentine's thing things in our family, that's kind of a tradition. I haven't had them because I haven't lived at home for so long. But she goes all out. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Does she do something different every year? [00:35:57] Speaker C: Yeah, she and dad would do something, go out in some nice fancy steakhouse dinner or whatever. But she would do a family one where one year it was a seafood lasagna, another year it was filet mignon, other year it was just top, top lobster, whatever. Top of the line, expensive, fancy. And her cooking skills, I mean, like, we're talking five star kind of thing. [00:36:17] Speaker A: So. [00:36:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Really? All of them. I mean, I can't even separate them out. [00:36:20] Speaker B: Mine is a meal at Cane prime in Nashville. Downtown Nashville, Wagyu Fillet. I remember everything. Corn creme Brulee. They did the top of the corn like you would creme Brulee. Like it was. It was insane. Cream corn, Caesar salad, delicious bread, one other potato dish, and then strawberry creme brulee for dessert. Oh, my word, man. Just the best meal that I personally ever had. [00:36:45] Speaker C: All right, back around. I'm the guy. That's Mr. Old Guy. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Slow on you. [00:36:49] Speaker C: No. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Number ten for you. [00:36:51] Speaker C: Yeah. What is your hottest pop culture take? [00:36:56] Speaker B: You all are going to agree it's not a hot take. I think the female rapper genre is the worst genre of music imaginable. I think that's just terrible. [00:37:04] Speaker C: The older I get, the more I hate rap in general. But women agreed. [00:37:07] Speaker B: But female rapping is just the worst. [00:37:09] Speaker C: Very unnatural. Yeah. [00:37:11] Speaker A: The 80s are incredibly overrated, my man. [00:37:13] Speaker B: I figured you were going to say that. [00:37:14] Speaker A: The 80s are just so stinking overrated. Like, everything's going back to retro, going back to the. It was big. I understand it. Don't at me here, because everybody's going to go, well, it was the start of techno. It was the start of rap. It was a start hip hop, it was the start of so many things. Yes, I realize that, but my goodness, so many one hit wonders. So many things that were just not good. Objectively not good. And we act like it's the greatest thing ever. 80s just drive me nuts. [00:37:38] Speaker C: Generation X has had the cultural ox cord for like 40 years now. [00:37:42] Speaker B: The cultural ox cord. All their movies are the best. [00:37:45] Speaker C: Well, every store you go into, you hear journey, foreigner, whatever, Bon Jovi, like, okay, true. Let's move on. [00:37:51] Speaker B: True. All right, fair metal, my number ten, which means we should be about a 30 minutes mark, hopefully. Dude, I'm going to have to skip this. What is the biggest strength and weakness of your co hosts? [00:38:04] Speaker A: Fellas, this is really, really difficult. I was going to say it's really difficult. It's really messed up. [00:38:08] Speaker B: Hey, we're getting real here. [00:38:09] Speaker A: I did not write anything down. [00:38:12] Speaker C: Mr. Cop out legitimately. [00:38:14] Speaker A: I thought and thought and thought about this. The biggest strength, because the thing I admire about you, I think, is your biggest strength. Are we talking on the podcast or are we talking in life? [00:38:21] Speaker B: I was thinking in life. Just answer because we're running out of time. [00:38:26] Speaker A: Okay, go for it. [00:38:27] Speaker C: So I was thinking, podcast Joe, your strength and weakness are the same as you're no filter. [00:38:32] Speaker B: Say stuff. [00:38:33] Speaker C: And I'm like, that takes guts. I wouldn't have said that. And then there's other things you say where it's like, I'm going to get. [00:38:38] Speaker B: What do we do? [00:38:38] Speaker C: Letters about that. It's a strength, but there are times where I'm like, man, a little bit more filtered, but it's one of those. [00:38:46] Speaker A: You take the good of the bad will. [00:38:49] Speaker C: Strength is thoughtful questions. I think you do a better job than either of us of pushing the episode forward. What about this? And I just kind of move down the outline, and that gives the episode breath, I think is really helpful. Weakness is just the well roundedness of knowledge in that. Like the premillennial, dispensational. We got to stop saying that. Episodes like that. You guys defer more to me, which it's not a weakness so much as it is an experience thing. [00:39:16] Speaker A: I was going to say, believe it or not, that was kind of mine specifically for you, which is knowledge wise, but I wrote myself into it because. [00:39:24] Speaker C: Not that you're unknowledgeable, but it's the. [00:39:26] Speaker A: Same thing for me, is I would say the same thing about me. Like, my biggest weakness is I feel well, okay, I got a few of them. Which one of them is the no filter, but is the same as you, which is. I just think we lack some of the knowledge as we go. I'd say the strength, I was going to say, you help the outline or give it structure on so many words. Hey, what if we did this? Boom, boom, boom, boom. Jack, I would say the biggest weakness is sometimes I think you can cut me off while I'm rolling. The biggest strength, I would say, is exactly that. You bring a gravitas, a weight to the podcast that if we did not. [00:40:01] Speaker B: Have you just interesting thoughts that would not be there. [00:40:04] Speaker A: We wouldn't have that. But, yeah, from the weakness, sometimes I think you get a little skittish on some of the heavier things. Hot takes on some of the. [00:40:12] Speaker B: All right, roll on number eleven. We got to roll. [00:40:13] Speaker A: We got to roll. Oh, that's right. That's me. Okay, sir. Got past that one. [00:40:18] Speaker C: Okay. [00:40:18] Speaker A: What's the best and worst movie you've ever seen? [00:40:20] Speaker B: We answered the best already, didn't we? [00:40:23] Speaker C: I think we did. Favorite, favorite. [00:40:24] Speaker B: Best movie I've ever seen. Either the Dark Knight, the Batman movie, or the Prestige. [00:40:31] Speaker C: I like the prestige a lot. Edited version. The Godfather two. Very well done. [00:40:37] Speaker B: I forgot an answer. Top Gun was very overrated. [00:40:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:40:40] Speaker B: Not the worst movie I've ever seen, but, man, it was not very good. [00:40:42] Speaker C: Yeah, good one. [00:40:43] Speaker A: Okay, Jack. [00:40:44] Speaker C: Worst movie I ever saw was where the wild Things are. It was a book a lot of people read as a kid. I don't remember if I walked or fell asleep, but not awful. [00:40:51] Speaker B: Awful good in the mail. Jack. Number eleven. [00:40:55] Speaker C: What? Can you not live without one item you can't live without cell phone. [00:40:59] Speaker B: I guess I use that more than just about anything else. And if IT's got my Bible on it, so got to call my wife. [00:41:06] Speaker A: I was going to say specifically my Bible, because it's got all my beer. Valley notes. On a less serious note, we talked about this in the podcast. Good toilet paper. [00:41:13] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. [00:41:14] Speaker A: Can't go without good toilet paper, man. True. [00:41:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. My number eleven. All right, Mount Rushmore. I got a lot of these Mount Rushmore questions. Mount Rushmore, greatest athletes ever. [00:41:24] Speaker C: Is Mount Rushmore Five? Now that my head's on there. [00:41:26] Speaker B: No, it is not. [00:41:27] Speaker C: All right, what you got? Okay. [00:41:29] Speaker A: Tiger Woods, Michael Phelps, Leo Messi. And the fourth I very much struggle with. I'm going to have to say LeBron. [00:41:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it's got to be. [00:41:37] Speaker A: I think I got to go with LeBron, even though if we're going based off of records, Gretzky would be. But as I told you guys. [00:41:43] Speaker B: So you're leaving Gretzky off. Ali. Muhammad Ali off, and you're leaving. [00:41:48] Speaker A: I mean, you could say somebody like Jerry Rice or Barry Sanders, Babe Ruth, Ted Williams. [00:41:55] Speaker B: What's your Ford? [00:41:57] Speaker C: Gretzky, Phelps, Messi. And I really don't know about a fourth. There's a lot of baseball guys, but this is the problem. I tried not to put anyone on there that there's a debate. LeBron, Jordan. There's a debate. Messi, Ruth, and no, Tiger's a debate because he didn't catch. [00:42:12] Speaker B: That's not a debate to me. I see what you're saying. [00:42:15] Speaker C: You guys are young. I mean, the tennis guys. Djokovic is probably the best, but. Yeah. And so if you're making me commit to a fourth, let's say. [00:42:24] Speaker A: Wow, that is a hot take right there. Tiger was so stinking dominant. Okay, what song brings a tear to your eye? [00:42:34] Speaker B: This is a good one. Is it me going first, or is it you? [00:42:36] Speaker A: Yeah, go for it, Jackie. [00:42:38] Speaker C: The Avid Brothers murder in the city, which does not sound like a sentimental song, but it's a song about, like, look, if you know my wife, my kids, my family, this is what I want you to know. [00:42:50] Speaker B: These are the days. Corey Asbury. Because I heard it for the first time, like, a couple of months ago, and it's about the stage of life that we're in right now, which is you're exhausted right now from parenting. You're really tired. It's going to get better. You're going to wish these days we're still here in 20 years, so that one for sure. [00:43:06] Speaker C: Cool. Did you have one? [00:43:08] Speaker A: Yeah. The clock was taken from Brandon Flowers. [00:43:11] Speaker C: Okay. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Leads me to the killers. [00:43:13] Speaker C: I have to look it up. Killers in the city. Let's see if you go back in time. What non biblical event would you love to see? [00:43:23] Speaker B: I thought about this, you know, it would be really utterly fascinating to be there when they were deciding the Bill of Rights, like the Continental Congress, where they were putting all that together and all the discussion, arguing. I think that'd be fascinating. [00:43:34] Speaker A: What are we going to do about TikTok, guys? What are we going to do about it? [00:43:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:37] Speaker A: Can you put that in there to ban it right now? That would be very fascinating. I put in there because I'd love to have the knowledge that literally nobody else has the building of the pyramid is. I'd love to know how they did it. [00:43:48] Speaker C: Nice. [00:43:49] Speaker B: Would you tell people or would you just like, ha ha, know and you don't? [00:43:52] Speaker A: Oh, I'd tell people. [00:43:53] Speaker C: That's your way of getting on Joe Rogan? [00:43:54] Speaker A: I was going to say Rogan. I'd be on History Channel. I'd be on aliens. They'd love me and then they'd go, that's not how it happened. No, but really, so that's what I do. Jack, do you have one on that? [00:44:04] Speaker C: I'd want to be on the moon in 1969, but I'm afraid nobody would show up. They're going to come get me, right? Nobody's coming, man. I'm kidding. I don't know. Yeah, that is my answer. I just like to see that. [00:44:18] Speaker B: All right, my next one, I think this was actually a listener submitted question also. So shout out to whoever asked this. What question will you ask God when. [00:44:26] Speaker C: You get to heaven? [00:44:26] Speaker A: I think it was sissy as well. All right, Sissy. One thing that I find to be interesting, this kind of weird question. Why did you require blood to be redemptive of all things? Like if you knew you're setting up the plan. [00:44:38] Speaker C: Life is in the blood. [00:44:39] Speaker A: I know. [00:44:39] Speaker C: Life question. [00:44:40] Speaker A: I know life is in the blood. I know. That's what he said. But why specifically did you set up? Jack's answered the question that you're okay, but you knew this plan was going to require your son, like Jesus, part of the Godhead coming down to die. Why didn't you formulate a different plan? You know what was, why'd you do. [00:45:03] Speaker B: It the way you do it? [00:45:03] Speaker A: Why'd you do it the way you did it, where he didn't come down and have to answer tough math questions or something. [00:45:07] Speaker C: You know what mean? Like, I'll explain this to you after the podcast. [00:45:11] Speaker A: I guess I don't have to ask anything, I'll just ask Jack. [00:45:15] Speaker C: Something I've been interested in lately is how true is lore. We've been talking about the pagan gods and where all the stories come from, and Thor and Bale and Hercules. There's a lot of overlap, Nimrod, things like that. There's even stuff about stuff that C. S. Lewis and Tolkien sourced, Lord of the Rings, kind of stuff that they were like, digging into Norwegian lore and Germanic lore and stuff like that. And it connects to myths that we have. And really it's a question of what was the world like before the flood. I mean, I think that's where a lot of this stuff comes from. Or right after the flood, up to Babel before the splitting. I just want a picture of that. [00:45:48] Speaker A: That's pretty interesting. [00:45:49] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah. Okay. All right, Joe, you're up. [00:45:51] Speaker A: My turn. Best memory of us together, Jack. [00:45:55] Speaker C: I can't share the real one. So we talked about it a little bit before, early three years ago or something. We started accountability meetings with a couple of. Reese was one of the other guys in know, just goals of what are you trying to get done this week? Where do you want to be in the next year? Things like that. And just following up with each. You know, we had known each other, but I think that was the thing that really brought us together was know, pushing each other. And we've talked about looking back on, we've got the sheets from what our goals were that first time. It was like, wow. I mean, like, we're all so far beyond that now. And it's because of having each other, I think. [00:46:30] Speaker B: I gotta be honest, I think that. [00:46:31] Speaker C: Led to the podcast we're here today because of that. Iron SharpeNS iron. [00:46:36] Speaker B: I was probably recency bias, but the LA trip that we just went on, that was. Was so much fun. So I'd have to say either that, because, I mean, just shout out to. [00:46:42] Speaker C: Victor Valley for bringing us. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Yes, shout out to those guys. And then just the countless nights we've stayed up late in Florida and even in Jaw's house back when you also live there. Just too many of those to name. [00:46:52] Speaker A: Playing football in your upstairs room. [00:46:55] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:46:58] Speaker A: How young were you? [00:46:59] Speaker B: I was probably like eleven. [00:47:01] Speaker A: 1111. [00:47:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:02] Speaker A: Those were so much fun. [00:47:03] Speaker C: Okay. If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be? [00:47:07] Speaker B: I would want to be four inches taller. Exactly four inches taller. And have a better singing voice. Those two names. [00:47:14] Speaker A: Good song leader. I would love to have a more defined Jawline, which is what I'm working on. We'll get there. But a more defined jawline and more discipline. I'd love to be more of a disciplined person. That is where it doesn't cost me everything to have to get up at. [00:47:28] Speaker C: 530 to hit the gym. [00:47:30] Speaker A: It would be nice. [00:47:30] Speaker B: You all read the book, the 05:00 a.m.. Club? I've been seeing ads for that. I need to read it. [00:47:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I've been seeing about it, too, but I haven't. [00:47:35] Speaker B: All right, number 13, Michael. Number 13. What is the thing? Shout out my wife. This is my wife question, actually. What is the thing you were least prepared for about marriage? So I guess the thing you really did not see coming. [00:47:46] Speaker A: I really did think a lot about this, and this is going to sound dumb. How many small things make a difference, such as the tweaks to a budget, house cleaning, paying bills, like adulting, as they call it, quote unquote. But how many of those things make a difference in the course of a marriage? Where it's like, if those things stack up, and early on in our marriage, it was really bad, where we would kind of push it to the side and not pay that bill, or not do this or not do that. And it'd stack up, and then it's like, oh, man. The same thing as you put laundry to the side. Like, just do the small things right, and things will go well. And, man, we Learned that the hard way. Still are, to a certain extent, but learn that the hard way. Yeah, that was my answer. [00:48:27] Speaker C: It's just the stuff we've talked about on some of the masculinity, femininity stuff of leading. Like, they tell you, you get hammered in your head. The nice guy think it's a partnership, just happy wife, happy life, all that stuff. And my wife's not like that. She's just kind of sitting there like, just tell me what to do. Tell me what we're doing on this. What's the decision? I'll go with it. Whatever it is. Might question it, or I might give my input. But what's the. You know, it's like, well, I don't want to run you over. She's like, say, yeah, I've talked before about the nice guy thing and how it conditions you so wrong. [00:48:56] Speaker B: Okay. [00:48:57] Speaker A: What piece of advice would you give to a young man who is about to graduate high school? Will and I do the gym podcast. I have an idea of what you'd say. But, Jack, I was very curious. You're not on the podcast with us, so I'm curious your thoughts. [00:49:08] Speaker B: What advice, other than subscribe to the Golly, I'm in podcast. [00:49:11] Speaker C: Of course. Absolutely. [00:49:11] Speaker A: And subscribe to folks. [00:49:12] Speaker C: Plus, there you go. Of course, you don't have to be perfect. I think that's something I struggled with, is like, I've got to choose the right career right now or else it's all going to fall apart. I've got to choose kind of the soulmate thing. You've only got one shot at the white, and it's like, no, you adapt as you go. You try and do your best, and then you're going to make a mistake because you can't live a mistake free life. You learn from the mistakes. That's what makes you stronger, is learning and growing, not making mistakes. [00:49:38] Speaker B: My answer is find a gang, like a group of guy, and I want to say a gang, like a group of guys that you can really rely on if you can have that when you're graduating high school instead of going off to college and finding some knucklehead buddies that you just love to go break the law with. No. Find guys that really have your back that you get there but you can share struggles with. The earlier you can get that in life, the better. [00:49:57] Speaker C: There you go. Favorite chain, rest front, cheesecake Factory. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Pretty easy for me. Love that place. [00:50:04] Speaker C: Menu like a phone book. [00:50:06] Speaker B: Every item I've ever had there been delicious. [00:50:08] Speaker A: Texas Roadhouse. Really? Texas Roadhouse? I don't think I would have guessed that. The more I go, the more it's like these rolls are untouchable. Nobody else can beat those rolls. I love the salad. The onion blossom is great. The steaks are actually mid. They're okay. Yeah, they're not great. Yeah. But there are a couple. If you get the right ribeye, it's pretty solid, man. Now they lack on desserts, whereas cheesecake factory is like the OG, man. There's nothing better than cheese. [00:50:32] Speaker B: It's amazing how Texas Roadhouse's rolls and cinnamon butter basically take them from. It's okay of a restaurant. [00:50:37] Speaker A: It literally is that. But it's by far the best. [00:50:40] Speaker B: All right, they got another family, one here. What is your favorite part about being a dad? [00:50:45] Speaker A: Getting to be a hero to your son, to a little kid. They want you to hold them. They want you to be there to see. You know, Harrison's taken skating lessons recently, and he looks for me in the stands I mean, there's, like, nothing better than that. [00:51:00] Speaker B: I agree. [00:51:01] Speaker A: So, yeah, just getting to be that hero and yeah, some uncles are and whatnot, but it's different when it's yours. When you are the one that they're going to call and you get to show up and make their entire day. That's pretty cool. [00:51:11] Speaker C: I'd say, seeing their hearts grow, seeing them do something wrong. One day they get in trouble for it, and the next day, hey, well, then they even kind of the same thing. They want your rule. Hey, I was really nice to my brother. I was really nice to my sister. That's awesome. That's what we're. You just see that soft heartedness growing in them and. Yeah, it's really special. [00:51:29] Speaker B: Jackson's at that age where he doesn't just want to do something, he wants you to do it with him. Yeah, I think that's super cool. [00:51:34] Speaker A: All right, fellas. Number 15. Both of you have pursued bachelor's in something other than the Bible. What's your favorite class from your non biblical schooling? [00:51:42] Speaker C: I almost have no recollection of. [00:51:45] Speaker B: I struggle with this question, too, Joe. It's a good question. I took A-U-S. History class. That was interesting. That's about all I can remember, honestly. [00:51:51] Speaker C: Most of my stuff was transferred in from Bear Valley, most of my credits. You took some business, so, yeah, there's business. There's macroeconomics, microeconomics, accounting, ethics. I mean, the business ethics one was. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Kind of fun, but microeconomics didn't make your list. [00:52:03] Speaker C: I mean, there was interesting stuff, but that was 15 years ago at this point, man, I'm old, man. [00:52:07] Speaker B: All right, Jack, you're number 15. [00:52:09] Speaker C: Okay. Will was barely born. What is your favorite sermon class or writing that the other guy has done? So, Will for Joe. Joe for Will. [00:52:17] Speaker B: Oh, I've got one for Jack, too, so I'll give mine quick if you. [00:52:20] Speaker C: Want to pump my tires. [00:52:20] Speaker B: Sure. Yeah. Joe, I think you might have stolen this from Jack, actually, your Tabernacle Sermon was very good when you preached that. [00:52:30] Speaker A: Sermon, told me where to find all the information. [00:52:32] Speaker B: It was recently when you preached on John and how you go through the tabernacle, and that's how John wrote. Man, my mind was blown. I thought that was really good. Represented it really well. Great stuff. And then, Jack, your fellowship issues article. I've pumped those tires before on this podcast, but I thought that was masterful. Just a master class. Good stuff. [00:52:50] Speaker A: Well, we just got off of a great class for keeping kids. Your casual Christianity. I've heard it a couple of times. Always a banger, always solid. There was one that you gave and actually you were making me think about it tonight during class. There's one you gave about keeping kids faithful. It was really, really good. And I can't remember what it was like, the name or whatever that you called it, but you had one a while back that was good. Jack, I think your recent stuff on becoming a people like what's going to be your book is some of the best stuff you've ever written. And you've written some really good articles over time. I've heard some really good sermons, heard some really good classes. But honestly, I think you're very much on to something like church. Reset was a great book, but your ability to now kind of step through that and look at kind of the minutiae of it has been fascinating. So each time an article comes out, I'm interested in it. [00:53:38] Speaker B: All right, what is your go to road trip? Candy and drink. [00:53:42] Speaker A: Reese's fast break with a Snapple apple. [00:53:46] Speaker C: Whoa. [00:53:46] Speaker B: You had your answer ready. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Oh, I did. Well, if it was a snack, I'll do a giant Dasani water and a big thing of jumbo seeds, sunflower seeds. Kind of keeps me awake, gives me something to do. That's kind of my snack if I'm going to. But yeah, if I'm getting candy, it's probably fast break and snapple. [00:54:03] Speaker C: I'm an Eminem guy. Peanut. Peanut butter, regular, whatever. And then, I mean, it used to be a Coke, but now it's an Americano. Or a coffee. [00:54:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we don't drink soda enough. [00:54:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I drink enough for both. Jack's got his coke, cane sugar, and if I get a coffee, you know what I'm putting in? [00:54:21] Speaker B: A cane sugar. [00:54:24] Speaker A: They're Mexican Coke. My coffee's just got cream, but they're called Mexican Cokes. That seems so racist, I got to be honest. [00:54:29] Speaker C: Well, it's the superior. [00:54:32] Speaker A: It's very good. [00:54:33] Speaker C: Came from Mexico. [00:54:35] Speaker A: It is. It just seems. Anyway, yeah, good stuff. [00:54:38] Speaker C: We're having to be hypersensitive these days. [00:54:39] Speaker A: Yes, we are. Or I'll just say it. I guess it's my best and worst quality. [00:54:42] Speaker B: No filter. [00:54:43] Speaker A: And no filter. Both of no, no. Next one. Will grew up with Brad. Jack has worked with him for well over a decade. What's something the average person doesn't know about Brad? [00:54:52] Speaker C: Yeah, I think when somebody is well known online and Brad has a lot of followers, everything he writes, people create a persona in their mind. And that's kind of your question, but he really cares I think that's something that gets missed, is when you just see somebody as an expert on something that, no, there's a person there. And when I was going through a tough time in my life, he was going to speak somewhere, rearranged his travel schedule to show up, spend an evening with me, take me out to dinner. Just things like that Thanksgiving last year, we had just moved here. Couldn't get back to spend it with family. He's like, well, come over to our house. We spend it with Will and with Brad and the. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Yep, that's going. He's got one of the worst sweet tooths I've ever seen. [00:55:29] Speaker C: He does. [00:55:32] Speaker B: I inherited it, unfortunately. And then the other thing I put is, believe it or not, he's actually an introvert. [00:55:37] Speaker C: Yes, very much. [00:55:38] Speaker B: He does a very good job of masking the introvert, the introversion, like one of the better people I've ever seen at doing that. But yeah, he is an introvert. [00:55:46] Speaker A: His ability to go on the road every week almost, and converse with people as an introvert. [00:55:52] Speaker C: I did five weeks of that and I'm like, I'm done. Six months, I'm staying home. [00:55:57] Speaker A: 50 weeks later, Brad's like, I'm still going. [00:55:58] Speaker B: Yeah, the mental exhaust. [00:56:00] Speaker A: Incredible. [00:56:00] Speaker C: What's something you want to see Focus Press do in the next three years? [00:56:04] Speaker B: I want to see Focus press be in tall task in the next three years. But be the Church of Christ's go to for Bible class material. That'd be kind of a not super objective one or not super tangible one, but I'd like to see that. [00:56:18] Speaker A: I want to see us excel in video content. [00:56:22] Speaker C: Jim is the best thing we do, but there's not much behind it. [00:56:24] Speaker A: Yeah, we want a lot more video. That's what engages people. So that's my big one. [00:56:28] Speaker B: Good one. Jack, what about you? I'm curious about your answer on that one stuff. [00:56:31] Speaker C: When we've gotten at it a little bit, but for men, I'm real big on the elitism, like raise up the next generation. The accountability group thing, I think there's a lot of power in that. Let's get that going everywhere. [00:56:41] Speaker A: I love that. [00:56:41] Speaker B: All right, top three sports moments in history. You would want to be in attendance live for. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Top three, number three. I'm actually going to say this is almost blasphemous. My team number three is going to be the 2022 AV Stanley cup win. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Recent one. [00:56:56] Speaker A: The recent one. After the wilderness year, we almost win. Yeah, we were close because Jack and I talked about hopping on a plane. [00:57:02] Speaker C: To my twins were two months old. I couldn't exactly leave my wife to go watch hockey game. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah. One of the bigger. That's not the biggest regret of your life. Number two is the 2019 Tiger win at the Masters. It sounds like I'm some huge golf guy. I'm not even a huge golf guy, but I am an. [00:57:17] Speaker B: Just to see history. [00:57:18] Speaker A: Yes, just to see history. I mean, incredible. And then, of course, number one is miracle on ice. Like 1980. How could you not want to be in that arena? And there's only like 4300 seats or something. Could you imagine having that ticket? [00:57:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:29] Speaker A: Unreal. So I would love to go out. [00:57:31] Speaker C: Miracle on ice. Homerish. I could say all of the Denver championships. So Super Bowl 32, John Elway's first one, I put one on there that it was a random avalanche game in March of 1999. And Peter Forsberg, one of mine, Joe's favorite players, they were losing five to nothing. And the guy just went, we're not losing tonight. And just scored and scored and scored and scored. And they won seven to five. I mean, it was just. I've never seen an athlete in any sport do that. Love to be there for that. [00:57:56] Speaker A: He ended up with what, three goals, four assists. [00:57:58] Speaker C: Three goals, three assists in 20 minutes. I can't explain how hard it was to do, but yeah. All right, Joe. [00:58:07] Speaker B: Number 17. [00:58:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's me. Sorry, I thought you asked. Okay, number 17, what podcast do you guys enjoy? This is from Joanna. [00:58:13] Speaker B: Shout out listener question. [00:58:14] Speaker C: My Denver sports stuff I really like, and I've shouted out before, conversations with Dan. With Dr. Dan. Owen Paducah, Broadway Church of Christ was one of our instructors at Bear Valley. I don't always agree with him. He's a lot smarter than me, and so that might be my problem. But very good deep dives on scriptural stuff. I like modern wisdom for self improvement and stuff like that. [00:58:33] Speaker B: I'm super lame. I don't get a ton of time to listen to podcasts, so my answer is not very. When I do, it's usually at the gym and I want something that's kind of entertaining. So I listen to sports podcasts is pretty much all I do and not. [00:58:42] Speaker C: Much of that Nick Wright guy. [00:58:44] Speaker B: Yeah, big Nick. How about you, Joe? [00:58:45] Speaker A: What's your answer? I was going to say modern wisdom I've very much gotten into, if it's the right. Yeah. Rogan clips, I would say from interesting people, but Chris Williamson and then Andrew Huberman's podcast, the Humerman Lab, I think is what it's called. He's got some very interesting stuff, scientific wise. Great podcast called the Get out of the Porn podcast. I mean, the guy's super smart. [00:59:08] Speaker B: I heard it's by a guy who doesn't have a PhD, though he will. [00:59:11] Speaker A: In the next ten years, hopefully. [00:59:13] Speaker C: That's the goal. [00:59:14] Speaker B: Nice. [00:59:14] Speaker C: That's right. Okay. This is one of those put you on the spot, make you talk about yourself. What do you want to be known for? And, I mean, obviously, I want to be known for being a Christian. Yeah. That stuff. Take that for granted. But if there's a book, if there's a work that you did, if there's something, whatever you got, you definitely should. [00:59:30] Speaker B: Have put that in parentheses, because I put raising a faithful family thing. Yeah, no raising. Other than that, just somebody who was. I mean, I don't think it's. This is something we talk about in the gym, but I don't think it's wrong to say I want to be successful in business. Sure. And maybe not to be known for that, but that's something that, hell, yeah, he did really well in business. He worked hard. [00:59:52] Speaker A: I put down, I want to help the church reclaim God's design for sexuality. Like, I want to be the guy that jump starts the discussion in the church, to get the church being the ones that are driving the culture around sexuality and not culture, which is a tall task. But I do think that there's a lot to the family, to masculinity and femininity and all of that that's tied into it. And so I would like us at Focus Press to be those that are kind of. And we are the ones pushing the train. I think we are the most patriarchal, or how should I say, like, patriarchy centered. Yeah, the patriarchy centered podcasts in the church, and I want to continue to be that and kind of push that train. [01:00:29] Speaker B: All right. What is the best sermon you've ever preached, in your opinion? [01:00:33] Speaker A: This is a tough one. I preached so many good ones. No, there's a couple that stand out to me. Number one is my feminism, one that I preached a few months ago. I think biggest threats face in the church are preached on feminism, and I did not pull my punches in that one. A baseball bat did not point punches. If there was any feminists in the audience, they would not come back, I tell you that. And that sounds terrible. Aren't you supposed to win the heart over? [01:00:56] Speaker B: It was really good. [01:00:56] Speaker C: Shout out to our congregation. [01:00:58] Speaker A: Yeah, they took it very well and got a lot of good feedback on it. I also did one at a gospel meeting one time on Ezekiel 36 and how basically, God's redemptive path of redemption really isn't about you. It's about his own glory, and we can make it. Yes, he loves us, obviously. But basically, I chose Israel for my purposes, not for yours. It's not because you're great. And so I thought it was pretty good, and I think it helped. [01:01:22] Speaker C: I did one on Jesus getting baptized in Mark one. When I preached through the Gospel of Mark, it wasn't anything like, not a great presentation. It's not like an outline. The text itself hit me so hard between the eyes of, this is my beloved Son, and he came to adopt us, make us his own, that he can look at us and say, you're my beloved, with whom I'm well pleased, and that in Christ we can be well pleasing to him. The Father thing we talked about earlier, that God views you that way, is just staggering. I mean, it's really hard to get my head around. And so I don't know if it was all that memorable for anybody in the audience, but it's one that I still just. Yeah, I have a hard time even comprehending it. Yeah. [01:02:03] Speaker B: Nice. [01:02:03] Speaker A: Good stuff. All right. Best sporting event you've ever attended. [01:02:08] Speaker C: You were there for it. And this is the hilarious part, is you were in the bathroom and the line for concessions for the first three quarters. It was a high school football game when I was in East Texas for like two mInutes. [01:02:18] Speaker A: Don't throw that in like I was in the bathroom. [01:02:19] Speaker C: Okay. You were in the concession line for, like 2 hours. Yeah, I missed the whole. The. Everybody in my church went to one of two high schools, two rival high schools in this tiny East Texas area. They met in the state playoffs, and the attendance at the game was more than the population of the two towns. [01:02:36] Speaker B: Wow. [01:02:36] Speaker C: I mean, like, everybody was there. It shut the whole town down. It was incredible. And the winning team, they traded touchdowns in the last two minutes, like, back and forth. There was like three or four of those guys played in the NFL from this high school game. It was unbelievable. [01:02:51] Speaker B: That's really cool. [01:02:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:52] Speaker B: And Joe missed it. [01:02:53] Speaker C: I think you were there for. [01:02:55] Speaker A: Everybody wanted their drinks, and I kept thinking, surely this will get better. Surely this will get better. Like, I'm this far in. No, it never got better. That's so good. [01:03:02] Speaker B: Mine, I realized I haven't been to a lot of sporting events because it is a very short list. I got to watch Peyton Manning when he's on the Colts, actually played against the Titans, and I was probably ten or eleven. First football game, so, yeah, that's probably it. [01:03:12] Speaker C: Very cool. Did you have one? [01:03:15] Speaker A: No. [01:03:16] Speaker C: All right. No one practice. Be careful here. Would you borrow from a denomination and implement? [01:03:23] Speaker A: Was this one that we came up with or somebody else? [01:03:25] Speaker C: I think I. [01:03:26] Speaker A: This is Jamaican, I would say. I don't like the way I put this down here. Being more physical, such as laying hands on people while we pray with them. [01:03:38] Speaker C: Okay. [01:03:39] Speaker A: Something like that. Where the touchy feely, like we're so much the. No. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Stoic. We don't do that. [01:03:44] Speaker A: We're very stoic. [01:03:45] Speaker C: Firm handshake and move on. [01:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah. The power. When I got to work at that addiction recovery place, the power of nine other guys or ten other guys putting their hand on somebody while we're praying for them and helping them, and to see a 45 year old man burst into tears, the power of the moment was so much like. It was so crazy. I've never really been in part of something like that. I think we could do a much. [01:04:06] Speaker C: Better job of that. [01:04:07] Speaker B: I had sort of similar, more spirit filled worship. Obviously no instruments or anything like that. Nothing anti biblical. But I think we don't do a good job in the Church of Christ of including the Spirit Part and the Spirit and truth part. I think our singing is stale a lot of times and people are just going through the motions with worship. So again, the denominations get it wrong in a lot of ways, but I think as far as kind of being more spirit filled, I think they do a little bit better job. [01:04:30] Speaker A: Do you have one on there? [01:04:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Corporate confession and absolution. We sinned, pray for forgiveness, and then let everybody know your sins are forgiven. I think that's powerful. [01:04:40] Speaker B: All right, fate. We used to go to Florida together every single year for like a decade or so. Favorite Florida trip. [01:04:46] Speaker A: Memory that first year in the room where it was. I don't know if you guys remember, but the four beds. [01:04:52] Speaker B: Yeah, we had. [01:04:52] Speaker A: They're like bunk beds, but they were kind of against the wall. And so there was four of them and all four of us in this room stayed in there and we just stayed up talking late. [01:05:00] Speaker B: And I was eleven and you were. [01:05:01] Speaker A: Like, eleven and Reese, what, you were nine or Reese was like eight or eight and. Yeah, it was a ton of fun. [01:05:08] Speaker C: The first year we had the football game when our brother in law Jack Dodging was with us and Joe and I won. It was Jack and Will against Joe and I. I do think that was. [01:05:18] Speaker B: The only year they won, actually. [01:05:20] Speaker C: Now, fourth down, diving catch, walk off, touchdown, won it. And yeah, that was probably the last time we ever won because will got faster than all of us. And nobody catch him again. So that was the end of that. But the first one was fun. [01:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah, good stuff. [01:05:35] Speaker B: You're 19. [01:05:36] Speaker C: Okay? [01:05:37] Speaker A: Getting down to it, you guys are a decade apart. What's the biggest difference in your growing up experiences as it pertains to culture? [01:05:45] Speaker B: Tough one. [01:05:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:46] Speaker C: I think things change so much with Wokism that the whole world, everything. You turn on the Internet every day. The mental annoyance of, you can't watch a TV show, you can't watch a movie, you can't listen to anything, you can't get online. It was so much easier when I was young. [01:06:03] Speaker B: Sort of similar to mine, I was going to say. And I don't know if it'd be cool or if I'm glad mine shaped out this way of like I was born into just constant technology. Kind of know social media know. At least from what I can remember, Jack, you got to kind of watch the evolution of it and see Facebook started and MySpace and all that light bulb was invented. Yeah, exactly. [01:06:23] Speaker C: Right? [01:06:24] Speaker B: But you know why I picked white socks? [01:06:25] Speaker C: I couldn't see in the. [01:06:28] Speaker B: I mean, I've kind of always been around technology nonstop, whereas you, I think, got to watch a little bit more of it. So that'd be what I do. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Think the 90s was the pinnacle. Sorry, Will, you missed out. I think it was the pinnacle of existence for kids. Just the best. [01:06:41] Speaker C: All right. [01:06:42] Speaker B: You sound like one of those nostalgic 80s people. Because that's exactly what they. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Nostalgic 90s person. And clearly that's not overrated. No, there's a lot about the 90s. [01:06:49] Speaker C: We didn't have any garbage. Like Top Gun. [01:06:50] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [01:06:51] Speaker C: What's your wife's best dish? [01:06:55] Speaker B: My wife's got a lot. I mean, just so many that it'd be tough to choose. No, she makes really good Italian rigatoni. Like, just knock my socks off every single time. [01:07:04] Speaker A: My wife's chicken parm is. It is unbelievable. [01:07:07] Speaker B: She home hasn't made it for us. [01:07:09] Speaker A: She home makes the sauce, the red sauce, nothing out of a can. The panko and Parmesan crust, and the special. [01:07:16] Speaker C: I think it was her Alfredo. [01:07:17] Speaker A: When we do homemade noodles, well, her Alfredo, literally. My wife, Cheeto. [01:07:22] Speaker B: Miss. [01:07:24] Speaker A: I'm telling you, there's been, like, three or four misses, and I will let her know when that happens. It is not very often, but her chicken parm is next level. Like restaurant quality. [01:07:32] Speaker B: Nice. All right, give me your top three quarterbacks of all time. [01:07:37] Speaker A: Of course. John Elway. Number one, baby. That can't be number one. Number two, Peyton Manning. [01:07:44] Speaker B: Really? [01:07:44] Speaker A: I think Peyton Manning is number two. Yeah. And yes, I'm a Homer. I'm a Broncos fan. Go figure. Don't sue me. But yes, I think Manning just understood the game of football better than probably anybody that's ever played the game. And then number three is difficult. I could put Marino on there from skill base. Montana's probably got to be on there. Brady doesn't come close. For those people out there that think that Tom Brady needs to be on number three, I think will does, actually. [01:08:06] Speaker B: You come around, man. I don't like the guy, but Seven rings is seven rings. [01:08:09] Speaker A: Seven rings in a system that was perfectly built for him that I literally could have. You could have put in like Brady. [01:08:14] Speaker C: If I did hottest sports take, it would have been, he's the luckiest athlete of all time. [01:08:17] Speaker A: Well, that part is true. [01:08:18] Speaker B: I agree with that. [01:08:19] Speaker A: He walked into seven. [01:08:21] Speaker B: Who was your third? [01:08:23] Speaker A: Montana. [01:08:24] Speaker C: Montana Elway Manning. I've never seen anybody play football as good as Mahomes. He's already up there. [01:08:29] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:08:30] Speaker A: You think so? [01:08:30] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:08:31] Speaker A: That's very. He's reinventing the quarterback. [01:08:35] Speaker C: And as a Broncos fan, that hurts me, too. [01:08:37] Speaker A: You got Russell Wilson. [01:08:38] Speaker C: That's another cool thing. Thing I can put on my list of favorite sporting events. I got to see him in high school. [01:08:42] Speaker B: That is really cool. [01:08:43] Speaker A: That's true. [01:08:44] Speaker C: And he was ridiculously good. [01:08:45] Speaker A: He dropped, what, seven in that game? And then we watched the White House. [01:08:47] Speaker C: You weren't in the concession stand? [01:08:50] Speaker A: I was not, actually, but I don't hardly remember the game, which is I don't think I knew what I was watching. [01:08:54] Speaker B: Okay, S's football is overrated. Sorry. [01:08:56] Speaker A: Very much is what one thing from the past do you wish would be brought back for you? Nostalgic people, sharper dress. [01:09:05] Speaker C: I think going everywhere, seeing people in pajamas and sweatpants and all the. [01:09:08] Speaker B: Good answer. [01:09:09] Speaker A: That's a really good answer. [01:09:10] Speaker B: I put like, classy social gatherings, you don't really see that much anymore now it's just when you hear party, you think, oh, like a college party or something. No, but they had balls and stuff. And not that I'm into dancing or anything, but they had classy get togethers and social gatherings and stuff. [01:09:25] Speaker C: What is your greatest athletic accomplishment? [01:09:27] Speaker B: I think it's me firSt, right? [01:09:28] Speaker A: Yes, it is. [01:09:29] Speaker B: So I'm a huge sports guy. I love sports. I didn't get to play a lot of sports. Homeschooled, traveled a lot. So mine's not going to be near as good as. I know what. Joe's is really good. Believe it or not, in Decatur we had flag football. And the first year that we play with our young people and like one or two adults, we lost every single game. We were a really bad team. The next year we came back and I stepped in at quarterback and we went three and one. Dropped some. I dropped some dimes, absolute dimes, and just played really well. Again, it's a flag football. So nothing great, but it was really cool. It was fun. I didn't get to play football growing up, so that was cool. [01:10:04] Speaker A: Mine was when I played JV high school. I was in a three way scoring race with two other guys on my team, and we weren't even close to the best in high school, our team, but we just stacked our team with three guys and then five people that could barely escape. Yeah, sounds really mean. And I won the scoring title with 50 goals and I think, twelve games, that's awesome. [01:10:26] Speaker C: 50 points? [01:10:27] Speaker A: Was it 50 points? Was it 30? Yeah, it was in the 34 goals a game. [01:10:32] Speaker C: Right. I was the coach. That was a fun team to coach. Joe, Chris, Chris, go score goals. Everybody else, just watch. Yeah. [01:10:40] Speaker A: Goals are all that matters. That's probably why I remembered it. [01:10:42] Speaker C: Yeah, he put up a lot of points. [01:10:44] Speaker B: All right. This is a very vulnerable, personal one. What do you struggle with most in your Christian walk? [01:10:52] Speaker A: This is a tough one. I would say consistency, like consistently finding. Because there are some Sundays where you show up just pumped, right? You're just ready. And then there are Sundays you show up and you're not, and then there's some weeks where you are consistent on, man, you're waking up, your prayer life's good, your Bible study is good. And then there's two, three days or weeks sometimes in the plural that go by where you're just struggling to get it done. I would say consistency is my biggest struggle with consistently feeling up and spiritual and things like that. [01:11:28] Speaker C: Working in ministry, I've always struggled with separating the work from the personal. I mean, like, you get something out of preparing sermons and classes, but it's not the same as your devotional time with, you know, it's easy to just kind of think, well, I had time with God today. I spent an know exegeting Mark or whatever, and it's like, that's not really the same thing. And so having this over here where it's just my time with God for prayer and study, and then this over here, that's for public consumption kind of thing, and I know some guys do both like what their personal study is, is what they preach. That just never clicked for me. [01:12:00] Speaker B: Mine would be making sure you contribute the hours to time with God. Just how little amount of time I feel like we have in our days and weeks. 21, Joe. [01:12:10] Speaker A: 21, what has been your proudest moment in life? [01:12:16] Speaker C: It's a little day to day stuff with the kids just again, seeing them grow or just getting a hug from your kids. The reception I got to church reset was really nice, but that's a glory to God kind of thing. You don't want to get too full of yourself because even looking back on that, there's like, well, there's stuff in there I think I would change, but still I'm proud. It's helped some people, I guess. [01:12:37] Speaker A: Yeah, like 4000 copies sold. [01:12:39] Speaker B: It's pretty nice. Pretty good for me. When I was, I think, 17, I spoke at Latzaliers in front of 5000 plus people and that was one. I was like, man, that was really cool. And then other than that, as far as the dad front goes, like Jack said, there's a lot of things I could name. But when Jackson learned how to fold his hands to pray without us ever teaching him, never taught him. He just, we looked over one day and he had his hands folded. That's just really cool. Really cool. [01:13:06] Speaker C: Me. What travel destination would you love to go to that you haven't already been? [01:13:11] Speaker B: I'd love to go to Italy. Have not been basically anywhere in mid Europe, but Italy would be my choice. [01:13:15] Speaker C: I had Rome on mine too. Yeah, Joe's been to Rome. [01:13:18] Speaker A: I have indeed. Tokyo. [01:13:21] Speaker B: I thought you'd been to Tokyo. [01:13:22] Speaker A: I have not been to Tokyo. We went to Beijing and Hong Kong, but I've not been to Tokyo. [01:13:26] Speaker B: Got you. All right, 21, what is your favorite part about recording? Think and deeper over the last two years. And least favorite part about recording, think deeper over the last two years. [01:13:36] Speaker A: Favorite part would be getting to spend time with you guys every day or every day. It feels like every day. Sometimes we text every single day. But getting to this is why I think getting to 100 is such a big deal. I really did not think we would get to 100 because of this. It's why it's a big deal and. [01:13:51] Speaker B: It'S also why it wasn't that hard either. [01:13:54] Speaker C: We look forward to. [01:13:54] Speaker A: It's just so much fun. [01:13:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:56] Speaker A: So looking forward to this every single week and getting to it. And when we did the, obviously we do the deep end, that's been a ton of fun as well. So that would be my favorite part. The least favorite part, I'm going to be honest, is getting trashed on social media. [01:14:07] Speaker B: That's not fun. [01:14:08] Speaker A: Getting letters sent out and things like that is not a ton of fun. And it just kind of creates like, yeah, it causes you to lose faith in people for a second, to be straight up honest with you. And so that is not always fun, but that's okay. You get through it. And luckily I got two guys on either side of me right now that very much. We came together in those moments, and so that's been good. [01:14:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I like the same as you the time together, but it's the before and after we turn on the mics. [01:14:38] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [01:14:38] Speaker C: Sometimes Joe will get a text from his wife. You guys done? No, we haven't started recording because we've. [01:14:43] Speaker B: Been talking for 45 minutes. [01:14:45] Speaker C: Right. That's the best part. I've been writing online for almost 15 years, and I've been working with Brad for almost 15 years. I'm used to controversy. I'm used to mad people, I'm used to all caps messages. That doesn't faze me anymore. I was really bummed that stuff crossed over to hurt family members, wives, things like that. Didn't affect my family as much, but just some folks involved. Yeah, that was uNfortunate. [01:15:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that was my answer, too. [01:15:12] Speaker A: Joe 22, no doubt. [01:15:13] Speaker C: Yes. [01:15:14] Speaker A: Sorry. You keep having to remind me you're all good. What's one change you'd make to the podcast? I wish. [01:15:19] Speaker B: I'm sorry, you're supposed to go first. [01:15:23] Speaker C: We've talked about this before. Once we're fully financially self supported, less restraint, we can just talk about a subject rather than thinking, rather than texting. Brad. Hey, what happens if we have an episode on X, Y or Z? We'll get there. [01:15:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good one. I don't see how this is feasible. I want some way that we can, some outlet that we can react to live events a little bit more than we, um. Just because it's one of those things like news events are just constant content, you always are going to have something going to talk about. Whereas with Think deeper, which I feel like we've done a really good job 100 episodes in. I mean, we've talked about a lot. [01:15:55] Speaker A: Of stuff, but we tried with think fast, but it was very. [01:15:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I wish there was a way to incorporate it in. I was curious, what do you have to add to that, Joe? [01:16:03] Speaker A: Make to the podcast. I would like to do more again, video stuff, just video content wise. I just think there's. Between Instagram Reels, Facebook reels, TikTok. That's very much where engagement happens, right? [01:16:16] Speaker C: If you could only have one book that's not the Bible, what would it be? [01:16:20] Speaker B: Convicted by? [01:16:21] Speaker C: Dr. Brad Harris, my man. On sale now. Focuspress.org. [01:16:26] Speaker B: I gotta be honest. This is, like, the only one I do not have an answer for because. [01:16:29] Speaker C: It'S like, it's pretty hard. Yeah, that was a listener question. [01:16:32] Speaker A: Okay, good question. But this is going to sound so cheesy. Seven principles for making marriage work, by John Gottman. Dr. John Gottman. I think Julie, his wife, helped. I recommend it to every one of my clients almost, who's going through marital struggles and such. If there's one book that you read for your marriage, I would say read that one. It's so practical, it's so helpful. So for just relationships, but specifically for your marriage. Very helpful. [01:16:58] Speaker B: Good stuff. All right, good stuFf. All right. Number 22 for me, when you want to study the Bible with someone to convert them, where do you guys personally start? Where is the starting place for you? [01:17:10] Speaker A: I think you have to understand their understanding of Jesus. Like, who is Jesus in their mind? Is he just a good guy? Did he exist? Do they think that he's just a good teacher? What's their conception of Jesus? And I feel like if you can help lead them that way. But that would be how I'd start. [01:17:32] Speaker C: I had a preacher friend in East Texas who had a study through Mark, and I loved it because it just did exactly that. I mean, Mark starts off with a claim, hey, this is the son of God, and I'm going to prove it to you. And then he goes about the book proving it of like he really is. And you end up at the cross and the soldier looking up, hey, that was the son of God. His study is one I've used before, handed out stuff like that just to ask questions. All right, what is this teaching you about Jesus? If Jesus did this, what does that mean? Mark, I think, is the answer. [01:18:01] Speaker A: Yes. Number 23, what is your favorite pastime with your family? [01:18:09] Speaker C: Playing in the backyard. Especially before daylight savings. We'd go out after dinner, just run around, play tag, kick a soccer ball around, whatever. Sunday afternoons. Then we don't have Sunday evening service. We kind of do the long morning thing. Just going. We usually take a couple hours outside. It's a lot of fun. [01:18:24] Speaker A: That's cool. [01:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah, my wife and kids, it's playing ball with Jackson right now. Anytime there's a ball we want to play. So I like doing that. If I'm bringing in my extended family, like siblings and stuff. Love playing cards. That's our go to, is just turn football game on, play some cards. [01:18:40] Speaker A: Nice. [01:18:40] Speaker B: How about you? Curious. [01:18:41] Speaker A: Cozy time. Harrison's called it. My five year old loves, got a fireplace for his birthday, an electric fireplace. He loves getting cozy at night. And we just sit around and talk about the day, kind of decompress. Put on some, one of those YouTube jazz videos where it's kind of low fire or whatever and yeah, just sit and decompress. Talk about the day. He always says, so what are we going to talk about? [01:19:04] Speaker B: He's, what is he, five? [01:19:05] Speaker A: He's five. And we just love talking about things. So. [01:19:08] Speaker B: Smart kid. [01:19:09] Speaker C: All right, top three all time desserts. This was not my question. So you get as specific or unspecific as you want. [01:19:16] Speaker B: So I think we both went kind of more generic, like just what's your three favorite desserts? So this is in order. Number one, actually, I'll start. Number three, banana pudding. Love banana pudding. My mom specifically, if she's listening, her bana when done. [01:19:29] Speaker A: Well, it's very good out of this world. [01:19:31] Speaker B: Number two, just a worm out of the oven chocolate chip cookie is very tough to beat. Just home at homemade, of course. And then number one, chocolate peanut butter milkshake is my all time favorite dessert as far as generically speaking, goes. [01:19:43] Speaker A: Anything peanut butter, except interestingly. Yeah. Okay. So number three, I'm going to say is fried ice cream. If it's good fried ice cream, I've. [01:19:54] Speaker B: Only had that once. I think I need to try serious. [01:19:56] Speaker A: Oh, man. There's a place in Denver that does it better than anybody. Anytime we go back, we get it. Number two is something of my own invention and I don't know how. I don't have diabetes yet. It is brownie batter ice cream. [01:20:07] Speaker C: Oh, man. [01:20:07] Speaker A: And then you melt Jiff, peanut butter. [01:20:10] Speaker B: Why have you not made this for us yet? Oh, my word. [01:20:12] Speaker A: So you take ice cream and then you make brownie batter, egg and all? Yes. I'm probably going to get salmonella one of these days, egg and all. And you just pour the batter over the ice cream and then you melt, Jiff. And you pour that over. [01:20:20] Speaker B: My goodness. [01:20:22] Speaker C: You added the peanut butter twist after I moved out because you used to do that when I was there. [01:20:26] Speaker A: It's unbelievable. It is unbelievable. So that's number two. And number one, just the OG. It was your number two. But chocolate chip cookies with a glass of milk, like ice cold milk, it is so fresh out of the oven. If it's a good recipe, there's nothing better than that. So do you have any add ons that you'd give? [01:20:41] Speaker C: I'm the cookie guy. [01:20:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. Jack makes a lot of really good cookies. [01:20:44] Speaker B: All right, my number 23. I think this was a listener submitted question. Top of your bucket list. [01:20:49] Speaker A: Get on Joe Rogan's podcast. [01:20:51] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. [01:20:52] Speaker A: I really do think it'd be a ton of fun to, like, I don't know, just shoot debris with high thinking people. I thought on this one for a long time. I do that every week, by the way, fellas. [01:21:02] Speaker B: Right? [01:21:02] Speaker A: Shoot the breeze with high thinking people, for sure. Shout out to my co host, compliment. But no, I would say, there we go. I had to fix the computer, man. I thought about the bucket list. I've gotten to travel. I've gotten to do a lot of good stuff, got to eat a lot of good food. I've lived a very blessed life. And so at this point, I would like to see Machu Picchu and climb from the five mile hike or whatever that it is. I think it's a lot longer, depending on the hike you take, but I think that would be really cool. Or, like, climbing Everest would be really cool, but I'm never going to do it. [01:21:36] Speaker C: Yeah. Build on our land. We got a little bit of acreage. The house is fine. Raise our family in it. But it's like a 50 plus year old house, and it shows it some ways. And so just getting to build on it, something of our own design would be pretty cool. [01:21:50] Speaker A: Here you go. Nice. If you could preach one message to the entire church, what would it be? [01:21:56] Speaker B: I'm sorry. I'm cutting off Jack again. Jack, you're supposed to go first. [01:21:58] Speaker C: No, go ahead. I got to find it. [01:21:59] Speaker B: I've got a specific and a generic answer. The generic answer, step up your parenting. Step up your parenting. And the specific answer to go with that is pull your kids out of public school. Again, that is a think deeper classic as far as a take of ours. But if I could preach one message to the entire church, again, generically, we got to step up our parenting. And a. Again, very practical, more specific outlet of that is we got to get our kids out of public school. [01:22:23] Speaker C: They say every time you're writing a book that everything in the world becomes about what that book talks about. And it's true. I've been down this road before. So it's the Christian elitism thing. We need leaders, shepherds, people taking responsibility for what's going to come next. In the church, rethinking eldering, stuff like that. [01:22:41] Speaker A: Good stuff. [01:22:43] Speaker C: All right, my question, we're at 80. [01:22:45] Speaker B: Minutes, by the way, fellas, so we are a little behind. A little behind. Question 71, if I'm doing the math right. [01:22:51] Speaker C: Yeah, we're getting there. All right, let's. Okay, let's see. [01:22:56] Speaker A: What is the first 24 tell 16 year old? [01:22:58] Speaker C: Yeah. What was the first thing you would tell 16 year old? You. We had the question earlier about what you tell a young man, but specifically yourselves, knowing what you've been through since you were 16, I would say take. [01:23:08] Speaker B: The time to develop good habits in every single area of life. Finance, like with money, develop good habits with working out, exercise, develop good habits with Bible study, develop good habits. I mean, fill in the blank, because I'd say I developed a lot of really good habits at 19 or 20. If I developed those at 16, can imagine where I would be now. [01:23:27] Speaker A: Sure. [01:23:27] Speaker B: And so that would definitely be something I tell 16 year old me, is develop those habits. Stick with it. [01:23:33] Speaker A: I would tell them, I know about your raging porn addiction, still love you, still care about you, go talk to somebody. You need to tell somebody to get out of this, and it's going to be okay. Your reputation can take the hit, but that's what it's going to take to get out of it is to come clean. If I had known that at 16, it took me a couple of years later before I was actually willing to do it, I think that would be huge and would have set me on a much better path a lot quicker. [01:23:55] Speaker C: Sure. [01:23:56] Speaker B: All right. What is your favorite class you took at Bear Valley? [01:24:00] Speaker A: Romans with Dr. Danny Petrillo. Or there's probably the top three. Romans. Hebrews with Dan Owen. Dr. Dan Owen, which Jack already referenced his podcast, and the most helpful one was exegesis. I don't know if it was my favorite in terms of content, but the most helpful by far was exegesis with Dr. PetriLlo. But Romans was a ton of fun. [01:24:22] Speaker B: Nice. [01:24:23] Speaker C: Yeah. Exegesis came to mind first, but I felt like Dr. Dan's John Gospel of John class showed you how to do it really well. Yeah, I really enjoyed that class. [01:24:35] Speaker A: Same with this Hebrews you came out of there. [01:24:37] Speaker C: I mean, I had a legendary Warren Wilcox for Hebrews, which was great, but Dan, I'm sure did a really good job of that, too. Yeah. [01:24:42] Speaker A: You just come out knowing, knowing the book, less notes on your computer, more in your Bible, which is always helpful. 25, you're both big coffee drinkers. What's the best way to drink your coffee drip. Americano, espresso, et cetera. [01:24:55] Speaker C: I like the little ones called a cortado, but it's like 4oz. And so I don't order it very often because you're going to pay that money to have a shot of coffee. [01:25:03] Speaker A: For the coffee literate. What is a cortado? [01:25:05] Speaker C: Well, you would know better than I would. [01:25:07] Speaker B: Is it four shots? My dad orders it a lot. [01:25:10] Speaker C: Yeah, you can get it with more shots, but it's like a one to one coffee and milk. [01:25:13] Speaker B: That's right. [01:25:14] Speaker C: So it's thicker than a late, but. [01:25:16] Speaker B: It'S espresso and milk. [01:25:17] Speaker A: Espresso. [01:25:18] Speaker C: Well, you can get it with like two shots of espresso and then like one half milk. [01:25:22] Speaker B: One half espresso. [01:25:23] Speaker C: Yeah. And so it's a very small thing, but it's more coffee e than a late. [01:25:29] Speaker B: I like espresso drinks the best because I like to enjoy my coffee. I don't just like I'm with Jack. Just the two sips isn't great. So some kind of espresso drink, I would say is my preferred way. Although I like them all. I like drip. I like all of it. [01:25:41] Speaker C: Did you have a particular. [01:25:43] Speaker A: I love a good brevis. I'm more of a half and a half guy. [01:25:47] Speaker C: That's strong stuff. [01:25:48] Speaker A: It is. And it's fattening stuff. [01:25:50] Speaker C: All right. What was the best part of your day? [01:25:52] Speaker B: Coming home and seeing my little boy for the first time all day. [01:25:55] Speaker A: Don't take mine. [01:25:55] Speaker B: Sorry. [01:25:56] Speaker C: It's kind of the. [01:25:56] Speaker A: It's pretty easy. [01:25:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I get up pretty early most days and sometimes don't get home till late. And so just the excitement in his eyes is just the coolest thing because I'm of course really excited also. [01:26:07] Speaker A: I had that one, but I also had getting up early, my wife and I. Now that I'm hitting the gym early with Jack, this is tougher to do since the kids are up by the time when I get home. But when we're up at 06:00 a.m. And we go watch the sunrise together, we read our Bibles together, we drink some coffee together. And that is the best part. And sometimes we can do it on the weekends now or coming home and just, Daddy, they run into your arms. There's nothing better than that. [01:26:31] Speaker B: All right, favorite and least favorite hymn. We did something similar to this on our holiday episode, but it's been a year, so let's refresh our deep thinkers memory here. [01:26:39] Speaker A: Yes, my favorite hymn it is. Well, with my soul. I just love that one. Hallelujah, what a savior is a. [01:26:45] Speaker C: That's a good one. [01:26:46] Speaker A: Probably. [01:26:46] Speaker B: The lyrics of that one are great. [01:26:48] Speaker A: Yes. I would say that one's, like, very close. Second. My least favorite currently right now is Happy Day. Oh, Happy day. [01:26:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:56] Speaker A: I just can't stand that song. [01:26:58] Speaker B: Really? I don't think you said that on the holiday episode. [01:27:00] Speaker A: I didn't say it on. [01:27:00] Speaker C: You said it before that you. [01:27:01] Speaker A: But I have said. [01:27:02] Speaker C: I agree. [01:27:04] Speaker A: There's no. [01:27:04] Speaker C: Doesn't match. [01:27:05] Speaker A: It doesn't match at all. [01:27:06] Speaker B: I think it's the way we sing it. [01:27:07] Speaker A: But even if we sang it, I still don't even. I don't know. I don't like it that much. [01:27:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I had that for least favorite. Favorite is his grace reaches me. [01:27:18] Speaker A: Nice. That's good. Will, you got one in there? [01:27:22] Speaker B: I wasn't prepared. Least favorite. I don't like Amazing Grace. I don't know if it's my least favorite, but I'm not. [01:27:28] Speaker C: Wow. [01:27:29] Speaker A: That is a hot take. [01:27:30] Speaker B: The slowness. [01:27:34] Speaker C: That is a song that the song leader can sing it as slowly as. [01:27:37] Speaker B: They want, and they often do. Pretty rough. [01:27:41] Speaker A: All right, favorite piece of Christian media. Shout out, Riley, for the question. [01:27:45] Speaker C: Yeah, we have a question coming up on Christian music. I just don't listen to it. Christian movies. I don't know. I mean, I like the Narnia stuff, so we'll go with that. [01:27:54] Speaker B: Courageous was really good as far as Christian movies. I was thinking courageous by the. What is that group called? Kendrick Brothers. Yeah, they did a really good job with that movie. Joe, you have a thought on that one? [01:28:06] Speaker A: There's an app that we follow that's got some really good content on it, but it's denominational thing. But I like some of their stuff. Canon plus they have some good stuff. But, yeah, nothing that really comes to mind. Some things we always say, some things you obviously disagree with, but a lot of good stuff out there, I'd say. But, yeah, we'll get to the Christian music one. [01:28:27] Speaker C: What have you learned from two years of the podcast? [01:28:31] Speaker B: I would say I've learned, kind of tied back to a previous question, that open and honest discussion about biblical and cultural topics is both incredibly needed more than ever, but also incredibly uncomfortable for people. I always kind of knew that. But again, doing the podcast, addressing topics that just, we kind of have our standard staple answers on in the Church of Christ that don't ever really get hit, and we hit on them and people need it. We get a lot of good feedback. Hey, really appreciate you guys talking about this. And then we also get the why are you guys talking about it? Type of questions. And so it's needed and uncomfortable at the same time for a lot of people. [01:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I was going to say very similar to that, which is one of the biggest things I've learned is, like, there are a lot of people that do think deeper, that really want to know they are okay with getting outside the box. They're okay with thinking about it. And so I very much learned that. And I would say to kind of come back to the other thing, I have learned how to take criticism. I feel like a little bit more of you try to roll with the punches a little more than what I did. So those would be the two things I've learned. [01:29:33] Speaker C: All right. [01:29:34] Speaker B: If you could change one thing about how the church operates right now, what would you change? [01:29:40] Speaker A: Yeah, obviously, leadership structure we talked about. But what I would say, actually, one big change, I would change Pew configuration, because the moment you walk in, it's like, this is different. And from then on out, I feel like everything would flow. If it looks different, people would have a mindset of we are here to do things for one reason, which is to glorify God to the best of our ability. So I would change Pew configuration instead of just the, as you talked about, movie theater setup. Movie theater setup. The, hey, we're all just here to the consumer setup, as Jack might say. So that's what I would change. [01:30:10] Speaker C: Closed communion. [01:30:14] Speaker B: You brought that up before. [01:30:16] Speaker A: That's very good. [01:30:16] Speaker C: I think a lot would flow from it. [01:30:18] Speaker B: 27. [01:30:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:30:19] Speaker A: What's one thing always worth splurging on? You're going to spend good money. What's one Jack says? Nothing. [01:30:27] Speaker C: No, this is what we did in LA. The decent meal in a place you're not going to go back to. That's one of those things that. Well, so there's a sandwich place in New York City that makes the best of sandwiches in America. Every time you ever see one of those lists, I walked into the place and it was like, oh, $20 for a sandwich. Now that's ridiculous. And I left and I ate airport food. I kick myself every time I see it on a list. Just do it. And so we went like that. We got the crazy burger in LA. It was an expensive burger. I'm not going to be there. So that one, I had good food. [01:30:56] Speaker B: On mine, but good food with travel. Travel again, I think I brought this up before, but when I'm going on a trip, me and my wife went to Atlanta last weekend. I was not paying attention to how much money we were spending. So travel and good food, good stuff. [01:31:09] Speaker C: All right, Christian music time. Yeah. What are your thoughts on? [01:31:15] Speaker B: I don't. This is a spicy one for this episode. I don't have a problem with it. I don't listen to it a lot because, quite frankly, it's usually not that great. [01:31:25] Speaker A: Just don't think it's good. [01:31:26] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot of funny, like, tweets and memes about it. I do think there is value in you are placing your mind on something a little bit better than what the radio is playing. I've always agreed with that take. Of course, the instruments thing gets a lot of people of, are you worshipping or are you not? I don't know. To me, when I'm listening to it, I'm not worshiping. I'm trying to center my mind on God, think about God, and it's more of just not entertainment purposes. But I'm just trying to think on better things, I guess. And so that's why I personally have a problem with it. Still don't do it, hardly ever. But I certainly don't make it a fellowship issue either, like some do. But. Good question. Joe, what are your thoughts? I'm curious. [01:32:05] Speaker A: I have a problem more with the hill song than I do with, like, DC talk or something. Or know Kanye West's album Jesus is Lord? I thought it was actually really good and there was worship music to it, I suppose. But, like, the Hill song stuff where it's very clearly, this is what they're singing in the denominational church. [01:32:25] Speaker B: There's a difference in a worship song versus song about God. [01:32:29] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. And so for the song about God, if that's the Christian music. [01:32:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:32:32] Speaker A: I would rather be listening to that than a rap artist talk about hose or whatever, like, horrible thing, you know what I mean? [01:32:37] Speaker C: You mean chicks? [01:32:38] Speaker A: Chicks, of course, yeah, but. You know what I mean. Yeah, but I'm not a big fan of Christian music, just in terms of its quality. But I think it's a conscience issue, personally. I think if your conscience is very bothered by it, obviously don't listen. But I don't think you can bind that on somebody else. [01:32:52] Speaker B: I'm curious to your thought real quick. The meme that I was just trying to remember, it's like, this is a joke about Christian music. This is a joke about Christian music. Key change. This is a joke about Christian music. Go ahead, sir. [01:33:02] Speaker C: Yeah, just not interested. [01:33:06] Speaker B: All right, shortest answer. Jack's given number 27. We are at 90 minutes 27 times three is 84. [01:33:14] Speaker C: We're close. [01:33:14] Speaker A: We got it. [01:33:15] Speaker C: We got it. [01:33:15] Speaker B: 84. [01:33:16] Speaker C: We're close. [01:33:16] Speaker B: 81. Yikes. All right, what is your absolute favorite thing to eat? We had a best meal ever. [01:33:21] Speaker C: Question. [01:33:21] Speaker B: This is not this. [01:33:22] Speaker C: This is just. [01:33:22] Speaker B: What is your favorite thing to eat? [01:33:23] Speaker A: Cheeseburgers. A solid cheeseburger is very, very tough to beat. [01:33:27] Speaker B: Cheeseburger and Fries was my answer. [01:33:29] Speaker C: Nashville. Hot chicken fries and ranch. Yeah. [01:33:31] Speaker A: Nice few places do it well, though. [01:33:35] Speaker C: Patty B's has fallen off, man. I make a better one than them. [01:33:38] Speaker A: Yours is. Alyssa and I were talking about that today. Is very, very good. Jack makes a killer hot chicken. Okay, you both are gym junkies. What's your favorite and least favorite workout? [01:33:48] Speaker C: I like a deadlift. Makes my back feel a lot better if I do it right. Running. Can't stand it in any form. [01:33:55] Speaker B: That's a great one. My favorite squats. I love doing squats. Makes my legs feel really good. Least favorite. I should have put running. I didn't think about that one. But basically any AB workout ever. Those are tough. I'm not a fan of those. [01:34:06] Speaker A: Nice. [01:34:06] Speaker C: All right. What is an attribute of a biblical person you would take, if you could? Abraham's faith, Peter's boldness, et cetera. [01:34:12] Speaker B: I put two things from one guy, Paul's head. Knowledge I would kill for, but also his endurance. Like, when you read the stuff he went through. What is it, two Corinthians eleven, I think. And just his determination. It's like, man, I think his endurance. [01:34:27] Speaker A: I'd love to have stolen. Yeah, mine was determination. The guy never stopped, man, no matter what he went through. And so, yeah, that would be mine. [01:34:36] Speaker B: Reese's prediction is coming true. We got, like, eight minutes to tackle a bunch more. [01:34:40] Speaker C: I don't know if he was waving us at time or if he didn't like the Paul answer. [01:34:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was the time. [01:34:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that's okay. We're going to keep going. [01:34:47] Speaker B: All right. Favorite memory with your wife and kids of all time? [01:34:51] Speaker A: This is a very difficult one. I have one with my wife, and then I have one probably with my kids, but for all of them together. California. This year we traveled as a family out to California, and we just made some. Like, we walked into Legoland. Obviously, we're boycotting Disney, but we walked into Legoland, and just the look on the boys'faces was like, this is the coolest thing ever. And so that was one of those core memories that I'll remember. Favorite memory with my wife. There's a lot of them. There's been some traveling memories that I would put very highly on the list. But just a couple of nights in where we just had some fun. [01:35:24] Speaker C: Yeah. All that road tripping we did a couple of months ago, I got to take them on a lot of it, and that's not fun. Two one year old twins and a three year old and a five year old, that's just not fun. So we would stop every few hours, get some food and go to a park. And it drives me nuts. I'm one of those get there kind of guys, but playing on the playground with the kids and all that. Just a lot of fun. Just Kentucky, Illinois, Arkansas, all over the Midwest and South and all that. [01:35:51] Speaker A: What's your hottest biblical take? [01:35:54] Speaker C: You go ahead. [01:35:55] Speaker B: Oh, making me go first on this one. We're hopefully going to drop an episode on it soon. I'm like 90% of the way to being a permanence view of marriage type of guy. Okay, marriage, divorce in your marriage. Hot topic, permanence view. Look it up if you're not familiar with it. That's probably hot. That's probably a pretty hot one. [01:36:10] Speaker C: I had a really hard time with this. A fun one. I had a discussion with some guys with recently was job can be found outside of job and that could go really deep. Like he might be referenced a few times in the Bible. [01:36:22] Speaker B: Oh, that's interesting. What's yours? I'm curious. [01:36:26] Speaker A: I didn't write one down. You guys know me. [01:36:28] Speaker C: Oh, boy. There's always got one podcast. [01:36:30] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. Yeah. No, we can't. [01:36:32] Speaker C: Moving on. [01:36:32] Speaker B: 29. [01:36:33] Speaker C: Your personal role model. And this was a listener question. You can't say Jesus my dad for sure. [01:36:38] Speaker B: That's pretty easy for me. [01:36:40] Speaker A: This is really difficult. Jackie and I are talking about this. I think I have role models. My dad's a role model in a lot of ways. And then there are other people that I would look to to be a role model in other ways. I think you're a role model of mine, Will. There's things that obviously, the determination, the knowledge as I talked about, those are the things that I think I take from a lot of different people. That's a cop out answer. But there's not one person that I look at and go, man, everything about them is what I want to be. There's multiple parts of Multiple people that I think I would like. [01:37:09] Speaker B: Sure. [01:37:09] Speaker A: But my dad would be a big one for sure. [01:37:12] Speaker B: All right, so I just had a marriage and family question. We're going to switch it up. How would you spend your day if your wife and kids were gone and you had no work to do. [01:37:21] Speaker A: Okay, I made a list. I clean the house a little bit. [01:37:26] Speaker B: Are you serious? On your one day? Oh, my goodness. [01:37:30] Speaker A: Because I don't feel good if things are not clean. And it gives you something. Like, I did something today instead of. I just wasted my entire day. Like, I did something. So I would do that. I'd start, and then I would probably call up a friend, see if they want to hit up or go watch a movie, go out to eat, come home, read a good book, watch a sports game, something like that, and get in bed. That would be my. So, reading. I like going to the movies. There's hardly anything to go. There's hardly anything to go see. I haven't been in forever. [01:37:59] Speaker B: That's one thing I was going to bring up. What's one thing you wish could be brought back? Good cinema. [01:38:02] Speaker C: Good. [01:38:02] Speaker B: That'd be nice. [01:38:03] Speaker C: I liked going family movies, man. [01:38:04] Speaker A: True. Exactly. [01:38:07] Speaker C: It's been so long, I have no idea. I'd read, go to the gym, go to a coffee shop, maybe. Honestly, I would sit down and write. I enjoy writing. I don't get it. Like, all the other duties make it really hard to sit down and do folk just writing. So, yeah, I know that's work. [01:38:21] Speaker B: But I'd play golf. [01:38:23] Speaker A: Golf would be a good one. [01:38:24] Speaker C: Get that. [01:38:24] Speaker A: Alyssa and I are starting to give each other an hour or two a week where we just have that where we go. And it has been very nice. And I go and I make notes. My notebook's over there, but I make notes. My little notebook. Therapy notes, biblical ideas. I brainstorm and just kind of journal. And that's been very nice. [01:38:40] Speaker C: A mild breeze, but, yeah. [01:38:43] Speaker A: I touch it. Okay, never mind. What's one thing you wish had never been invented? [01:38:50] Speaker C: Income taxes, Will. [01:38:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:38:54] Speaker B: I couldn't think of much of anything. [01:38:55] Speaker A: Nukes. [01:38:58] Speaker C: There you go. [01:38:59] Speaker A: Okay. [01:39:01] Speaker C: Favorite holiday and why? Another listener question. [01:39:03] Speaker B: Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday coming up here soon, in fact, this will be dropping the week of Thanksgiving. [01:39:09] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:39:09] Speaker B: Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. I love the values that are centered around Thanksgiving. I love Christmas a lot, too. In fact, the Christmas season, I probably like better. Just more cool things about it. But Thanksgiving Day, my favorite holiday. You got your family there. You're watching football, beautiful weather, typically good food. There's just such a homey, welcoming feel about Thanksgiving that just can't beat. [01:39:29] Speaker A: I think Thanksgiving is the best holiday. My favorite, actually, now that I think about it, is Christmas. And it's because the great food and the family time that you get at Thanksgiving. I also get at Christmas, but you get it for longer. You get gifts. You're giving gifts. You get to see the joy on people's faces, especially with the kids. There's nothing like getting to see your five year old walk into a gift that he's like. It makes his entire year. So that's probably my favorite. Now, Will, I think that's you. [01:39:53] Speaker B: Number 30 for me. Oh, I'm excited about this one. Mount Rushmore of restaurants. You won't be found dead in Ruby. [01:40:01] Speaker A: Tuesdays, Applebee's, Cheddars and Golden Corral. [01:40:05] Speaker C: Okay. [01:40:05] Speaker B: Oh, Golden Corral has to be on the list. That's great. [01:40:08] Speaker C: Thought about that one. Applebee's, Long John Silvers, Johnny Carinos, if they're still around. And TGI Fridays. I always like the food at Carinos. The worst service of anywhere, ever. [01:40:16] Speaker A: It's true. [01:40:17] Speaker B: Long John Silvers was a good inclusion. [01:40:19] Speaker C: The grease is. Oh, man. [01:40:21] Speaker A: It's not good. [01:40:21] Speaker B: I like that. [01:40:22] Speaker C: All right. [01:40:22] Speaker B: It's a good 131, Joe. [01:40:24] Speaker A: 31. Here we go. What's one fact about you that very few know? [01:40:28] Speaker C: It came up earlier. I'm actually quite good in the kitchen, I would say, patting myself on the back. [01:40:33] Speaker A: That's very true. He's got a lot of good stuff. [01:40:37] Speaker B: Some people know it, some don't. I like name brand clothing, and I really like to buy shoes. [01:40:43] Speaker C: Love buying sneakerheads, both of them. [01:40:46] Speaker B: Jack owns, like, two pairs of shoes. [01:40:47] Speaker C: And he wears white socks with comfortable, is all. [01:40:51] Speaker B: Do you have an answer? [01:40:52] Speaker A: I'm curious on fact, about you. In fact about. No. No. I'm a boring guy. Open book hockey stuff. I would say people don't know. [01:41:02] Speaker C: You might have been beaten by now, but you were the youngest graduate of Bear Valley Bio Institute. [01:41:06] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't think that sounds arrogant to say. I don't think I've been beaten. This sounds very arrogant. I don't know that I ever will be beaten as that. [01:41:13] Speaker C: I don't know. We'll have to talk when we get off. [01:41:14] Speaker A: Talk about it. [01:41:15] Speaker C: All right. Is it back to me? [01:41:17] Speaker B: Yes. Number 31. [01:41:19] Speaker C: What's something you're embarrassed to admit you like? [01:41:24] Speaker B: I think Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber make really good music, and I'm not that embarrassed about it, actually. [01:41:30] Speaker C: I think they're pretty good. [01:41:31] Speaker A: I actually like some of Taylor Swift. [01:41:33] Speaker C: Roast them. [01:41:33] Speaker A: Say it louder, Joe. [01:41:34] Speaker B: What'd you say? [01:41:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I do like some of Taylor Swift's music. It is one of those guilty things. Matter of fact. [01:41:40] Speaker B: Guilty. [01:41:41] Speaker A: Yeah. I went into my artists on iTunes, and I switched her name from Taylor Swift to original artist. [01:41:47] Speaker C: Are you serious? [01:41:48] Speaker A: You know, where it kind of falls. [01:41:49] Speaker C: Into it and see it and so. [01:41:50] Speaker A: People can see way because I was pretty embarrassed by it. But yes, Taylor Swift has some good music. [01:41:55] Speaker C: Reese, I'm old. I can't read that clock, man. [01:41:57] Speaker B: Do we hit 100. [01:41:58] Speaker C: Our interns give last minute. [01:42:00] Speaker B: Okay, I answered this one already with my most overrated but most overrated movie and most overrated musical artist. [01:42:07] Speaker A: Okay, movie. I struggle on this one. There's a lot of them. Top Gun is definitely on there. Dead Poet Society. [01:42:13] Speaker C: Since we already mentioned Top Gun, it's wrong. Robin Williams is the bad guy. [01:42:18] Speaker A: That's a hot take. I thought it was kind of a garbage movie. And everybody says, oh, it's a classic with Robin Williams. I just didn't think it was good. And most overrated musical artist, I think is Kendrick Lamar. I don't listen to. [01:42:28] Speaker B: You didn't say Beyonce. Gotta be Beyonce. [01:42:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's a great one. Beyonce. She's very overrated. All the female rappers are overrated. But Kendrick Lamar, people act like he is the hottest thing ever. Drake. Oh, I should have said Drake. Any rap artist. They're all overrated, Man. [01:42:43] Speaker C: All right, Reese, we're not hitting the. We're not hitting the say. [01:42:47] Speaker B: I will say, shout out to everybody who is still with us. We know this is going to be our longest episode ever. We're having fun. [01:42:53] Speaker C: Very self indulgent. We're just goofing off. We hope you're having a good time, too, answering the questions for yourself. And again, give them the business about their music takes. [01:43:00] Speaker A: Now, we may hear Jacks. He asked. Yeah, exactly. [01:43:02] Speaker B: What's one thing you're embarrassed to admit, Jack? [01:43:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I play that. Carly Ray. [01:43:06] Speaker A: Carly Ray Jackson. [01:43:08] Speaker C: That is a jam, at least. Taylor Swift. Multi platinum. Oh, yeah. It's more like the hipster write lyrics. [01:43:13] Speaker A: Really? [01:43:15] Speaker C: All right. [01:43:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:43:17] Speaker C: We already rated people mad. Let's make the 90s people mad. Overrated movie. Jurassic Park. Overrated band Nirvana. All right, moving on. Sorry, 90s people, what are your biggest pet peeves? Jack, you're up next level. Grammatical errors. Like, everybody knows the two, two two there. They're there, but where people say, oh, I'm just biased. No, you're biased. Or I was just dominant. No, you were dominant. Things like that. [01:43:42] Speaker B: I could care less. [01:43:43] Speaker C: I couldn't care less. [01:43:44] Speaker B: I've got three. [01:43:46] Speaker C: Okay. [01:43:46] Speaker B: People drive him crazy. My biggest pet peeve is people flaking out of commitments. The flakiness of like, oh, yeah, we'll see if we can make it. Yeah, we'll be there. Oh, no, we can't make it. Just either commit or don't commit. [01:43:57] Speaker C: Own it. [01:43:58] Speaker B: The flakiness drives me nuts. I put not knowing basic. The basic stuff drives me nuts. You're supposed to know the difference in two and two. You're and your. It's not that hard. It's basic. And then compliment fishing. Can't stand when people compliment fish. [01:44:12] Speaker C: Oh, I'm not very good at that. [01:44:15] Speaker B: Yeah. I always, never say something on purpose. That's what you want. It's mean. [01:44:20] Speaker A: But chewing with your mouth open. [01:44:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:23] Speaker A: Drives me nuts. And the licking your fingers after. There's no worse sound on earth. I'd rather hear fingers on a chalkboard. [01:44:31] Speaker C: So anyway, back to me. [01:44:33] Speaker A: Back to you. [01:44:34] Speaker C: You can only listen to one album the rest of your life. What is it? [01:44:36] Speaker B: I have Band on mine. Is it album? [01:44:38] Speaker A: I have band. [01:44:39] Speaker C: Did I change that? I'm sorry. [01:44:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I have band. [01:44:42] Speaker C: All right. [01:44:43] Speaker B: I'm changing it to artist because. [01:44:44] Speaker A: Go for it. [01:44:45] Speaker B: I'm a big band guy. Morgan Wallen, for sure. [01:44:47] Speaker A: The Beatles. [01:44:47] Speaker B: Okay, Jack, what's yours? Bob Dylan. [01:44:50] Speaker C: No, if I had to pick one band, probably the Beatles. Yeah, I meant album, and I forgot I changed it on. You guys go ahead. [01:44:57] Speaker B: All right. Favorite and least favorite thing about living in the South, I'm curious about this one. [01:45:01] Speaker C: Okay. [01:45:02] Speaker A: My favorite thing I would say is friends and family, being so close, you guys being here, just getting together so close and so much. I'd say that's the best. The least favorite is a tie between the humidity but also the bugs. I think I'm getting used to the humidity. You guys grow bugs like ten times bigger than Colorado, and there's 10 billion times more Colorado. You walk out and there's like, oh, there's one mosquito on my back porch here. It's like I got 60 spiders in my room crawling around. I can't get through it. [01:45:31] Speaker C: Favorite is the friendliness and the vestiges of Christian culture. I mean, the Bible Belt, obviously, there's a lot of analysis goes into that, but there's still. You can be openly Christian, more here than others. [01:45:40] Speaker A: Least favorite. [01:45:41] Speaker C: I don't have that much snakes, copperhead, stuff like that. [01:45:45] Speaker B: Okay, nice. [01:45:46] Speaker A: Favorite Christian writer outside of, obviously, biblical books. [01:45:50] Speaker B: I mean, C. S. Lewis. [01:45:55] Speaker C: I hesitated to pick him, but it's because he has the fiction and non fiction. Yeah. [01:46:00] Speaker B: I couldn't think of anybody that I would put above C. S. Lewis. All right, what's your answer, Joe? [01:46:05] Speaker A: Favorite Christian writer. C. S. Lewis is really good. I haven't read enough of like, R. C. Sproul's got some good stuff which might get us killed on it. I don't stuff. Yeah, same thing. Spit out the bones, but yeah, probably C. S. Lewis. I love his stuff. [01:46:21] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got great stuff. [01:46:22] Speaker C: What is something you wish you knew better about the Bible? [01:46:25] Speaker B: I put the to know. I'd like to know way more about Greek and then Bible specific. The major prophets. I'd like to my knowledge theRe. [01:46:35] Speaker A: I was going to say, knowing Hebrew would be very nice, but typology, I'm fascinated by it. There's so much typology. We've missed that. Now that I'm just like touching the surface of it, it's mind blowing. So I would love to get more into typological work. [01:46:51] Speaker B: How about you? [01:46:52] Speaker C: I'm sorry, really? Exodus through Deuteronomy. The law, you just kind of don't touch it like. Oh, yeah. Well, there's a lot of those laws. No, there's a lot in there. It's just you got to really dig for it. [01:47:02] Speaker A: Question 99. [01:47:02] Speaker B: 99. Mount Rushmore of states you would never live in. [01:47:07] Speaker C: Man, makes some people mad. Yeah. [01:47:10] Speaker A: Don't hate me for this. Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Wyoming. Why? Easy for me. [01:47:16] Speaker B: Interesting. [01:47:16] Speaker A: There's nothing there. Very pretty, Jackson. Very pretty. But there is nothing there. [01:47:23] Speaker B: The other ones made sense. [01:47:24] Speaker C: Nice thing is you're not going to offend anybody because like ten people live there. [01:47:26] Speaker B: You'd rather live in North Dakota than Wyoming. [01:47:28] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe North Dakota. That's true. [01:47:29] Speaker C: I had the two Dakotas. Nebraska. Because a Nebraska, but B, the college football thing. Just no Nebraska. I put Kansas on the list because I never liked driving it. [01:47:40] Speaker A: I will say the best fall colors. [01:47:41] Speaker C: I saw in all my travels. [01:47:43] Speaker B: Jack's a Kansas guy. [01:47:44] Speaker A: Oh, my word. [01:47:45] Speaker C: What a Kansas guy. [01:47:47] Speaker A: But wow. [01:47:48] Speaker C: I was impressed. But it's still on my list. I just don't. [01:47:53] Speaker A: It's still there. [01:47:54] Speaker C: I'm giving it more credit. But we got to pick something. [01:47:56] Speaker A: Oklahoma. [01:47:57] Speaker C: I mean, when you said never. There's places like politically I'm not going to move to right now, but they come around. I could move there places. North Dakota. [01:48:04] Speaker A: North Dakota. I will change out for Wyoming. [01:48:08] Speaker C: Freezing in North Dakota. [01:48:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:10] Speaker A: The other three I will not. [01:48:11] Speaker B: If we have a listener in North Dakota, please comment. I don't think that was one of our states that got filled out. [01:48:16] Speaker A: And tell me why I'm wrong for that. [01:48:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:48:18] Speaker A: All the Oklahoma people. Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong. You're still going to be wrong. So, I know we got a lot of Oklahoma listeners shout out to all. [01:48:24] Speaker C: Of them, but a lot of them. Yeah. [01:48:27] Speaker A: I do not like that state. [01:48:28] Speaker B: Jack Reed, question 100. We are at the last mark here. We did not make the 100 minutes. Reese was correct. But again, shout out to everybody who listened. We had a lot of fun with this. Let's get to question 100. [01:48:38] Speaker C: Absolutely. This from our guy Titus, one of my co hosts, on who let the dogma out. If all three hosts entered the Octagon for a three way grudge match, who would come out victorious? We decided the best way to answer this was to actually do it. So here we go. [01:48:49] Speaker B: Here we go. [01:48:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:48:51] Speaker B: Jello, start with you. [01:48:54] Speaker A: I would say if it was not for two back surgeries, I think I'd win. [01:48:58] Speaker B: Oh, here we go. [01:48:58] Speaker A: If it wasn't with my back, it kind of depends. If my back holds up, I think I'd win just because I'd sit on size. [01:49:03] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm hearing excuses. [01:49:05] Speaker A: I'm a lot heavier than both of them, so I think size wise, but I'm not near as fast and near as limber. But from size. Here's the difficulty. Sorry, hitting my mic here. Here's the difficulty is you're obviously the most athletic. There's not a debate. Will is the most athletic. You've gotten a lot. You still have the raw power, the raw strength, because no offense to Will, but I don't think he's come into the full raw strength of the broad. [01:49:35] Speaker C: Shoulders and such. [01:49:39] Speaker A: A. Yeah, but for me, I'm fat. I just sit on you. Yeah. [01:49:46] Speaker C: Will, your turn. [01:49:47] Speaker B: I'm going to bet on myself. I think I'm winning. [01:49:48] Speaker C: You kind of have to. [01:49:50] Speaker A: I feel like Will probably would, but. [01:49:52] Speaker B: Oh, that's too lows for Will. [01:49:54] Speaker A: But if I actually connected, which I'm too slow, but if I actually connected on something, I think I'd probably do more damage. Connecting on something. [01:50:04] Speaker B: Jack, you're betting on. [01:50:05] Speaker C: Of course I'm betting on myself. I think more than anything, and I'm a man of fruit of the spirit, man, but I'm just meaner than both of you. [01:50:13] Speaker B: Yeah, Jack. [01:50:14] Speaker A: I used to fight Jack as a kid. [01:50:15] Speaker C: The way Reese was nodding his head. Everybody in the room knows. [01:50:19] Speaker B: Well, Jack bullied Reese for years when. [01:50:21] Speaker C: He was younger than poor Reese. [01:50:22] Speaker A: I lived with the guy. [01:50:23] Speaker C: I know all about it. [01:50:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:50:24] Speaker B: No, Jack's bulldog mentality would probably be tough to come. [01:50:28] Speaker A: I could tell you stories about him on the rank that are absolutely. [01:50:32] Speaker B: Oh, there's some funny. [01:50:33] Speaker C: No, that's the funny thing. I got multiple people thrown out of games for telling them to punch me, and they did. And I didn't punch back. [01:50:39] Speaker B: No, it's more of the mouth stuff. Yeah. [01:50:41] Speaker A: Jack's mouth got him in a lot of trouble. [01:50:42] Speaker B: Those are some funny stories. [01:50:44] Speaker A: You were in the box more. [01:50:44] Speaker B: And when shouting. [01:50:45] Speaker A: I probably was. [01:50:45] Speaker C: My entire life, I never fought anybody. 15 years of hockey, never fought anybody. No, didn't. Really didn't. [01:50:51] Speaker A: Impressive, Pansy. [01:50:52] Speaker B: I will say shout. [01:50:53] Speaker C: See, I told you. Fruit of the spirit self control is. [01:50:56] Speaker A: There, but if I need to claw. [01:50:58] Speaker C: My way out of a cage. [01:51:01] Speaker B: So we're going to James three tongue thing. [01:51:03] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. [01:51:04] Speaker B: Thanks, Titus, for shout out to Titus for that awesome question. This has been a blast. Episode 100. We're still going to keep rolling. Episode 101 is coming next week. We got a lot of good topics lined up. As always, we are wanting the suggestions that you have. We got some good suggestions with some of the questions that were submitted that we didn't have time for. [01:51:21] Speaker C: Probably have a good two question and answer episodes here sometime around the probably. [01:51:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So on a serious note, happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Again, the best holiday in my opinion. I hope everybody has an awesome week. Guys, anything to add as we wrap up this very cool, important 100th episode of Keeper? [01:51:38] Speaker C: We went over a lot. I don't think you can respond to all 100 of the questions. If there was something you felt really passionately about or we got something wrong, or if you're a big Jurassic park fan or something, throw it in the comments. Love to hear people's takes things. [01:51:51] Speaker B: And we'll do a deep end, probably just because we need to, and I don't know what we'll cover yet, but, yeah, if you've got something you disagree about, let us know. [01:51:58] Speaker A: The deep end will be made up of all your comments. So comment lots and we'll talk, and. [01:52:03] Speaker C: We'Ll tell you who won the cage match if you want that result. [01:52:06] Speaker A: So when I show up in a. [01:52:07] Speaker C: Wheelchair, there's somebody kicked Joe in the back. All right, weLl, we'll wrap right there, and we'll talk to you guys next week. Thanks again for two years of listening, and we'll keep going, Lord willing.